Converting a Continental LPG regulator to Calor,can it be done?

vyv_cox said:
The recommended intervals are not somebody's guess as to how long they might last, they are based on statistical analysis. When insurance companies recommend that standing rigging be changed after ten years it is not because they are using 'common sense' or even metallurgical knowledge. They are looking at curves showing the frequency of failure of hundreds ,maybe thousands, of rig failures plotted against life. Presumably the curve rises significantly after ten or twelve years, so that is the advised life.

I'm not sure that insurance companies possess the data to do the same for hose and regulator failures but I assume their manufacturers do, and pass it on. I think the only 'arrogance' occurs when a user presumes to know more about a subject than the people who manufacture, test and insure the equipment.
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They are averages not individual assessments taking into consideration particular circumstances.That is for the individual to do! (If they have a mind of their own & are capable of doing it).

I am curious to know with all this bleating going on why the regulator (s) I have do not have dates on them in order to do what you lot are so keen on? Also stop cocks & valves/through hull fittings seem to have deteriorated so much in recent years that they now seem to be made of any old rubbish including brass & that some of these have been fitted to new boats by otherwise respected boat building concerns,is that not true?
Heaven help those that cannot think for themselves!Thank Christ I have got old Blakes skin fittings & can think for myself (& have experience to go by). :rolleyes:

PS: I would'nt want Nigel's dodgy keel either :D
 
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I'm going to ignoremthismthread from now on. The OP has asked a question, got an answer (several) then taken issue with them. If he's so knowledgeable, why ask in the first place? I advise all others to refrain from engaging with him as he's clearly deranged. (Nic, don't bother responding, I'm not listening)
 
Nicholas123 said:
The difference is I don't go round trying to run everyone else’s lives for them or get miffed when they don't take my advice ;) Clearly there are a load of control freaks around here.
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No I am sure, initially at any rate, people were concerned for your safety, the safety of your crew, guests, friends, family, other loved ones and anyone else who might sail with you and for the safety of others who might find themselves moored next to you. Now I doubt if anyone gives a toss for your own safety though

Nicholas123 said:
They are averages not individual assessments taking into consideration particular circumstances.That is for the individual to do! (If they have a mind of their own & are capable of doing it).
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You are presumably therefore capable of assessing the condition of a gas regulator.

Perhaps you can tell us the equipment you use to test a regulator for correct operation and the test procedures.

Also please tell us how you inspect and test the internal components to assess their condition.

Or are you saying that you have statistics that indicate a much longer reliable and safe life for a regulator than the widely known 10 year recommendation. If so what is the source of this information.
 
ghostlymoron said:
I'm going to ignoremthismthread from now on. The OP has asked a question, got an answer (several) then taken issue with them. If he's so knowledgeable, why ask in the first place? I advise all others to refrain from engaging with him as he's clearly deranged. (Nic, don't bother responding, I'm not listening)
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It is so sad that people like you are unable to use your own judgement & I can only commiserate even if you ar'nt listening :D
 
VicS said:
No I am sure, initially at any rate, people were concerned for your safety, the safety of your crew, guests, friends, family, other loved ones and anyone else who might sail with you and for the safety of others who might find themselves moored next to you. Now I doubt if anyone gives a toss for your own safety though



You are presumably therefore capable of assessing the condition of a gas regulator.

Perhaps you can tell us the equipment you use to test a regulator for correct operation and the test procedures.

Also please tell us how you inspect and test the internal components to assess their condition.

Or are you saying that you have statistics that indicate a much longer reliable and safe life for a regulator than the widely known 10 year recommendation. If so what is the source of this information.
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Vic I am quite capable of look after myself & don't give a damn about your 'concerns'.

As for testing a regulator,I asked about the specific problems that limits it's use to 6 years & nobody could provide as answer except 'it's recommended.' Well if you want to run your whole life devoid of your own judgement just relying on other peoples recommendations then that's up to you,I prefer to think for myself based upon my own experience :encouragement:
 
Nicholas123 said:
As for testing a regulator,I asked about the specific problems that limits it's use to 6 years & nobody could provide as answer except 'it's recommended.' Well if you want to run your whole life devoid of your own judgement just relying on other peoples recommendations then that's up to you,I prefer to think for myself based upon my own experience :encouragement:
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OK I want to make my own judgement ... hence the questions about testing and assessing the condition of a regulator which you seem to have chosen to ignore

The regulator in my boat is now over 10 years old but it has not had much use. I would like to assess the need or otherwise for replacing it.

How can I test that it is still functioning correctly. What equipment is needed and what procedures should be followed. I guess one can check the pressure it delivers with something which I believe is called a "manometer" but that would be just a spot check. There is presumably some procedure to ensure that this remains correct under varying conditions.

In addition to checking it for correct operation I want to be able to inspect the condition of the internal components to determine to what extent their condition has deteriorated in 10+ years in the marine environment. This I feel is essential in order to make an estimate of the remaining useful life of the regulator.

How then do I determine the condition of the internal components and how do I judge the condition of the diaphragm and other perishable parts?

You imply that you are able to carry out these tests and examinations ..... share the secrets.
 
VicS said:
OK I want to make my own judgement ... hence the questions about testing and assessing the condition of a regulator which you seem to have chosen to ignore

The regulator in my boat is now over 10 years old but it has not had much use. I would like to assess the need or otherwise for replacing it.

How can I test that it is still functioning correctly. What equipment is needed and what procedures should be followed. I guess one can check the pressure it delivers with something which I believe is called a "manometer" but that would be just a spot check. There is presumably some procedure to ensure that this remains correct under varying conditions.

In addition to checking it for correct operation I want to be able to inspect the condition of the internal components to determine to what extent their condition has deteriorated in 10+ years in the marine environment. This I feel is essential in order to make an estimate of the remaining useful life of the regulator.

How then do I determine the condition of the internal components and how do I judge the condition of the diaphragm and other perishable parts?

You imply that you are able to carry out these tests and examinations ..... share the secrets.
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I told you that the regulator on my previous boat was at least twenty years old & functioning perfectly Vic so what you do about your regulator & your keel bolts ...& your rigging wire & your seacocks & the type of keel you choose & a million & one other decisions which we face in life is up to you.I cannot be expected to run your life for you Vic,at some stage we all need to stand up & be counted :encouragement:
 
nigelmercier said:
A clear case of Dunning–Kruger.
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Is he someone you have invented to help you get through your life Nigel along with a little cuddly poo bear you have on your key ring? I hope it works for you :D

PS: Hows that dodgy keel?I hope that's heap big powerful magic man.

I think if I was you I'd have much more to worry about than just a six year old regulator :cool:
 
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Nicholas123 said:
I told you that the regulator on my previous boat was at least twenty years old & functioning perfectly Vic so what you do about your regulator & your keel bolts ...& your rigging wire & your seacocks & the type of keel you choose & a million & one other decisions which we face in life is up to you.I cannot be expected to run your life for you Vic,at some stage we all need to stand up & be counted :encouragement:
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The age of the regulator on your old boat is irrelevant I want to asses the condition of my regulator.

I therefore ask again. How can I test that it is currently working correctly, maintaining the correct gas pressure under varying conditions ?

How can I inspect and assess the condition of the internal components.

You imply that you are able to assess the condition of your regulators. I want to do the same. I would, therefore, be grateful if you could answer the above questions.

It seems I may not be the only one interested in doing this.

I am darned if I can see the relevance of rigging wire, keel bolts and seacocks to testing and inspecting a gas regulator. Perhaps you would explain this also as I am obviously missing something, but then I am not a qualified Engineer.
 
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Nicholas123 said:
I told you that the regulator on my previous boat was at least twenty years old & functioning perfectly Vic so what you do about your regulator & your keel bolts ...& your rigging wire & your seacocks & the type of keel you choose & a million & one other decisions which we face in life is up to you.I cannot be expected to run your life for you Vic,at some stage we all need to stand up & be counted :encouragement:
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That's a shame. I was looking forward to the detail explanation of how a regulator could be tested to extend it's safe working life. I'd've thought that would be right up the street of a five-bob engineer.

The ten year figure is obviously a bit finger-in-the-air as it's far too round a number to be based on detailed MTBF calculations or a rigorous treatment of empirical data. I'd hoped you were going to enlighten us.
 
VicS said:
The age of the regulator on your old boat is irrelevant I want to asses the condition of my regulator.

I therefore ask again. How can I test that it is currently working correctly, maintaining the correct gas pressure under varying conditions ?

How can I inspect and assess the condition of the internal components.

You imply that you are able to assess the condition of your regulators. I want to do the same. I would, therefore, be grateful if you could answer the above questions.

It seems I may not be the only one interested in doing this.

I am darned if I can see the relevance of rigging wire, keel bolts and seacocks to testing and inspecting a gas regulator. Perhaps you would explain this also as I am obviously missing something, but then I am not a qualified Engineer.
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Then I suggest you do your own research it is not my problem.
 
lpdsn said:
That's a shame. I was looking forward to the detail explanation of how a regulator could be tested to extend it's safe working life. I'd've thought that would be right up the street of a five-bob engineer.

The ten year figure is obviously a bit finger-in-the-air as it's far too round a number to be based on detailed MTBF calculations or a rigorous treatment of empirical data. I'd hoped you were going to enlighten us.
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Clearly you people are neurotic & need 'experts' to run your life.Not a problem I have :encouragement:

Maybe if you had a properly dedicated locker to house your gas bottle like what I've got :) + a gauge on your regulator to see if you have a leak you all might not be quite so poor pathetic timorous beasties :D
 
Nicholas123 said:
Then I suggest you do your own research it is not my problem.
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You are the one suggesting we should make our own assessments of the condition of such equipment as a gas regulator and appear to be claiming that you are able to do this yourself. Presumably you therefore know of procedures for testing and inspecting such a piece of equipment. All I am asking is that you explain this so that I, and anyone else who feels so inclined, can do the same. You, after all, are the one claiming to be a qualified engineer.

Come on share the secrets. At least give us some pointers, some links perhaps, or am I to deduce that you cannot, that you are, in fact, unable to test or make a proper inspection and assessment of the condition of a gas regulator, and that every thing you have said in this thread about doing so is nothing but claptrap and dangerous bad advice.
 
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