Considering an LM24 motorsailer

[Simonpk]

I'm contemplating a small motorsailer and the one that seems to meet the requirements is the LM24, or Cox 22 Master Mariner. I like a bit of sailing but not bothered about bashing to windward any more and these 2 apparently sail quite well off the wind, & I like engines. Are there any owners, past or present, with any info and pointers as to what to look out for?

The LM's I've seen have the original BUKH 10 or 20hp 80's engines still in them, are likely to go on for many years or do I need to consider re-engining?

Typically there aren't many around so it may have to be the waiting game.

Many thanks

Si

 

[LadyInBed]

Also Swin Ranger (22')

 

[RAI]

My cousin had an LM. Brilliant design, sails better than you might think. You will find most of them still in the Baltic, so check Scandinavian web sites. (Cheaper there too).

 

[Caer Urfa]

I'm contemplating a small motorsailer and the one that seems to meet the requirements is the LM24, or Cox 22 Master Mariner. I like a bit of sailing but not bothered about bashing to windward any more and these 2 apparently sail quite well off the wind, & I like engines. Are there any owners, past or present, with any info and pointers as to what to look out for?

The LM's I've seen have the original BUKH 10 or 20hp 80's engines still in them, are likely to go on for many years or do I need to consider re-engining?

Typically there aren't many around so it may have to be the waiting game.

Many thanks

Si

For offshore sailing and the size you are looking for Have a look at this one http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=475370

Mike

 

[Simonpk]

My cousin had an LM. Brilliant design, sails better than you might think. You will find most of them still in the Baltic, so check Scandinavian web sites. (Cheaper there too).

I've seen the Scandinavian ones advertised but I can see hassle & grief getting over there, viewing what looked like a good one, only to find it's a pooper & then getting it back here.

The Swin Ranger doesn't really "do it" for me and I would certainly entertain a Colvic Watson 23, but unfortunately the wheel house on that one looks like greenhouse stuck on top.

Thanks for you help so far.

Si

 

[NealB]

I don't know whereabouts you are, but I was talking to a chap at Bradwell Marina just a couple of weeks ago.

He's very keen to sell his LM24. He's had it for several years, and is now giving up after a long, varied, life of sailing adventures.

Let me know if you'd like me to get his contact details.

 

[Simonpk]

Thanks Neal, I'm only a little way up the coast from Bradwell in Holland-on-Sea & sail out of Walton.

If it's convenient to get his details that would be great.
Many thanks

 

[NealB]

Thanks Neal, I'm only a little way up the coast from Bradwell in Holland-on-Sea & sail out of Walton.

If it's convenient to get his details that would be great.
Many thanks

Hi Simon.

No problem: I'll be going to Bradwell this afternoon. If he's around, I'll get his phone number or email address. If not, I'll leave him a note to contact me.

 

[chinita]

I have an LM26 with original Bukh DV20. Good, simple, solid piece of engineering.

Been on a number of LMs - can't recall any Bukhs being replaced.

 

[Simonpk]

Hi Simon.

No problem: I'll be going to Bradwell this afternoon. If he's around, I'll get his phone number or email address. If not, I'll leave him a note to contact me.

PM sent

 

[petedg]

You might find this link helpful; http://lmowners.proboards.com/
We have an LM30 with a 36hp Bukh, 1985 vintage and still running well. If the engine has been looked after I would not consider changing. Good luck with whatever you buy.

 

[Spi D]

A heads up from the home of LM.

Apart from at start of making furniture (1940) and GRP campervans their main production has been motorsailers from 16' to 32'. Some models more MOTOR and others more SAILER. Some actually sold without mast.

Nowadays the factory makes wind mill wings of impressive diemensions. Production to my knowledge is moved out from Denmark.

If interested the selection of LM's over here is quite large.

Local version of gumtree has 38 for sale, 24' asking from some £6.000

http://www.dba.dk/baade/baade/motorsejlere/?soeg=lm&sort=price
https://www.google.dk/search?q=lm+m...6p3NAhUGDZoKHRjxD-QQ_AUICCgB&biw=1696&bih=794
PM if you need assistance with language, contact info etc.

 

[NealB]

Simon,

I have sent you a pm with details about the LM 24 at Bradwell.

 

[Jim@sea]

I would certainly entertain a Colvic Watson 23, but unfortunately the wheel house on that one looks like greenhouse stuck on top.

Si

I have just reluctantly sold a 23.6 Colvic Watson, The wheelhouses which were supplied and fitted new are a lot better than the one shown in the photo. If I was to buy another old boat (mine was 32) it would have to have Bilge Keels and have been Re-Engined.

 

[Jim@sea]

I have an LM26 with original Bukh DV20. Good, simple, solid piece of engineering.

Been on a number of LMs - can't recall any Bukhs being replaced.

As you can get parts for Bukh engines you dont need to replace the engine.

 

[Len Ingalls]

Love my Mascot 28. Similar to LM but "square stern"-more space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqeQWh_Q1RI

Clever layout. Low pilothouse,because pilothouse deck is lower than cockpit.
Sails well. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3f0f6mhn2waecmt/Puffin II Layout.jpg?dl=0

 

[Simonpk]

Good news on the longevity of Bukh engines & I don't want to go any larger that 23/24ft.