Compatible glow plugs for a Volvo Penta 2030

[Chanquete]

Hello
I am looking for alternative glow plugs for this engine.
I would very much appreciate data about compatible glow plugs of some different brands.

Thanks in advance


Chanquete

 

[jerrytug]

Hi Chanquette I have a 2010, there was a thread on this and some kind person put up the numbers, obviously much cheaper than V*lvo ones. Have a little search, I will have a look in the morning, cheers Jerry

 

[VicS]

Take care

there was a number for NGK glow plugs posted on the Forum (Y107R) but they were for a "quick glow" system with a pulsed controller and failed after one use in the VP engines.

This UK site lists Non original glow plugs identical to the VP ones at about half the price http://www.yachtboatparts.com/glow-plugs-3583025-2538-p.asp

But really a set of glow plugs should not break the budget even at VP prices and they should not need changing frequently either. The people who tried the wrong type blew any saving along with the glow plugs

 

[duncan99210]

The glow plugs on our 2030 were replaced by the previous owners just before we bought Rampage but they were still not working properly. It took a bit of doing but I traced the problem to the relay which controls them: the terminals for the relay were loose. Once tightened the problem was resolved, so you might want to check this before replacing the plugs.

 

[Spi D]

Fairly inexpensive at

http://www.yachtboatparts.com/glow-plugs-3583025-2541-p.asp

 

[Spi D]

If hunting further, for any reason, see what Google stumbled over:

I got the following concerning the VP 2030 from somewhere on the web in the distant past:-

Your engine is what Perkins calls a 103-10. Perkins started importing these 100 series engines from a Japanese company called Ishikawajima Shibaura Machinery, Ltd. nearly twenty years ago. ISM is part of Ishikawajima Harima Industries, one of Japan’s largest industrial companies. Perkins marketed this engine in a marinised version as the Perama M30. They sold the engine to Volvo Penta who marketed it as their MD2030. They also sold the engine to Massey Ferguson, McCormick, Terramite, Textron, Jacobsen, Cushman, Vermeer, Leech Lewis, JCB, Kobelco, and Northern Lights to name just a few. In the US, the engine was distributed through Detroit Diesel – Allison which is closely tied to the MTU conglomerate. By 1996, Perkins had become so successful at marketing these engines to other equipment manufacturers that they formed a joint venture with ISM called Perkins Shibaura Engines, Ltd. and began assembling the engines at the Perkins facility in Peterborough, UK from parts shipped from Japan. In 1997, Perkins was acquired by Caterpillar. With an added boost from Caterpillar, this little engine has become one of the most popular engines in the world. It’s used in turf equipment, tractors, mini-excavators, brush choppers, compressors, welders, pumps, generators, etc. etc. etc. Even Caterpillar uses it in some of their smaller equipment. The “Perkins” name was highlighted on the engine ID plate which is located on a distinctive boss just forward of the injection pump. The 2006 model year’s production of the engine has “Shibaura” highlighted on the ID plate. In 2001, the larger Shibaura 400 series engine was introduced with assembling at Peterborough, UK from parts mostly from Japan, and in June, 2004 assembling of the 400 series engine began at a Caterpillar facility in Griffin, Georgia, USA with production exceeding 100,000 units per year.

Which leads to this cross ref. http://www.findpart.org/part/ngk-y107r

 

[Chanquete]

Take care

there was a number for NGK glow plugs posted on the Forum (Y107R) but they were for a "quick glow" system with a pulsed controller and failed after one use in the VP engines.

This UK site lists Non original glow plugs identical to the VP ones at about half the price http://www.yachtboatparts.com/glow-plugs-3583025-2538-p.asp

But really a set of glow plugs should not break the budget even at VP prices and they should not need changing frequently either. The people who tried the wrong type blew any saving along with the glow plugs

Hy Vics

I attribute the failure to the single coil nature of the NGK Y107R glow plugs. You know that here are single coil and double coil plugs. Single coil plugs will burn out if constant power is applied, while double coil plugs will regulate their temperature and not burn out.
I took my burned glow plug to a diesel electricity shop and bought a WEGA GJ 130 MA double coiled plug.
Hope it works

 

[VicS]

Hy Vics

I attribute the failure to the single coil nature of the NGK Y107R glow plugs. You know that here are single coil and double coil plugs. Single coil plugs will burn out if constant power is applied, while double coil plugs will regulate their temperature and not burn out.
I took my burned glow plug to a diesel electricity shop and bought a WEGA GJ 130 MA double coiled plug.
Hope it works

I did not know that. Just repeating something that I had read on the forums previously.

I wonder what I should use in my car .... that gets through quite a few glowplugs despite usually fitting genuine manufacturers replacements. I replaced the control unit once but it made no difference .. £70 wasted!

 

[Chanquete]

Hola Vics

As a week end sailor I also didnt know these glow plug characteristics.
I learned a lot from these NGK glow plug features information:

Double Coil Type
• The warm up
time is much
faster
• The coil will not
be damaged if
current flows
continuously
• Improved
durability

Now I am trying to learn from a very interesting NGK sheet: http://www.partinfo.co.uk/files/Glow Plugs QA.pdf
One point about I am still confused is the following:
1) I dont know the technical features of the original VP glow plugs. Who knows? (You are forced to buy genuine parts)
2) One coil or two coils? I dont know.
3) according NGK information double coiled plugs heat faster. Then, how many seconds should I warm up the engine before starting?
At present, in our very mild subtropical clima I warm up during 18 seconds in summer and 23 seconds in winter.


Saludos

Chanquete

 

[VicS]

Hola Vics

Yes I found the same NGK site. I now know that the car glowplugs are twin coil ones.

 

[Stork_III]

Hola Vics

As a week end sailor I also didnt know these glow plug characteristics.
I learned a lot from these NGK glow plug features information:

Double Coil Type
• The warm up
time is much
faster
• The coil will not
be damaged if
current flows
continuously
• Improved
durability

Now I am trying to learn from a very interesting NGK sheet: http://www.partinfo.co.uk/files/Glow Plugs QA.pdf
One point about I am still confused is the following:
1) I dont know the technical features of the original VP glow plugs. Who knows? (You are forced to buy genuine parts)
2) One coil or two coils? I dont know.
3) according NGK information double coiled plugs heat faster. Then, how many seconds should I warm up the engine before starting?
At present, in our very mild subtropical clima I warm up during 18 seconds in summer and 23 seconds in winter.


Saludos

Chanquete

For a healthy engine in your climate those times are excessive, and may lead to burn out. In UK in summer my MD2030 will start with no glowplug use , in winter maybe 10 secs.

 

[Chanquete]

Hy Stork!
Your information about the warming time is very interesting.
I remember when my 2030 was new, that we tried different warming up times in order to optimize the process.
I have tried during our winter at 16 Cº with 10 seconds.
Without any success.
The local Volvo service recommended us to increase to approximately 18 seconds. That was OK.
Thus I infere that Volvo has used during some years different glow plugs.
My engine is now 13 years old. I am very happy with its performance. No problems only normal maintenance: oil, filters, impeller changes.
We are very cautious before paying Volvo prices with parts that obviously are also purchased by Volvo to other manufacturers.
For example the Volvo oil filter. The genuine part costs 40 U$S. The compatible exellent Mann filters with international quality used by prestigious brands like Mercedes, BMW, Audi, costs 9 U$S.
After experiencing a poor performance wit Volvo impellers I switched to Jabsco which last one or two years more than the original part.