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Chrusty 1
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One of the most ultimate arrogance's as far as I'm concerned.
Colregs
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One of the most ultimate arrogance's as far as I'm concerned.
John.edwards
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Thank you all. I have the greatest teaching exercise for my next dat skipper class. same scenario...different books on interpretation...discuss 
Talulah
Well-Known Member
Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools
(Solon, the Lawmaker of Athens, d. 559BCE)
Similar to "Wise men speak and fools decide."
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Chrusty 1
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Yes and?
trapezeartist
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Really? It seems to make a lot of sense to me.
trapezeartist
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately they do!
So there I am in mid-channel, 100,000 tonnes of steel bearing down on me and I not only have to thumb through the colregs, I have to check the interpretations too.
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timbartlett
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Do you thumb through the Road Traffic Acts and all the other legislation when you encounter another vehicle on the road? Or do you make sure you have a working knowledge of the rules before you set off?
I think it should be the same with boats -- but I'm obviously in a minority. Much safer, apparently, if we all just ignore the rules, or make up our own rules as we go along.
Rigger Mortice
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The scene; A mini roundabout, with four roads coming off it.
Four cars arrive at the same time, one from each road.
Result; Stalemate. Every car stops because the one on his right has "right of way" Someone has to make the first move, but who?
Common sense sometimes has to override the rules.
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timbartlett
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Better than all of them saying "I don't like that rule. It's not fair. I'm going to ignore it. So there!"
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Chrusty 1
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Yeah well, I suppose it might at that.
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Chrusty 1
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If you knew them, and already had what they said in your head when that situation occurred you would be just fine. The colregs don't need your interpretation, all you have to do is obey them. That is what the professionals on the bridge of your 100'000 tonner will be expecting you to do.
But I expect you are one of these "wise men" who knows better than "fools" so you would just do whatever came into your head, would you not?
As you said previously, the saying "rules are for the guidance of wise men, and the obedience of fools", makes perfect sense to you.
onesea
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If you look in the rules (Rule 2: Responsibility
) its allowed within them but does not override them...Its wisest to have read all of them though...
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
Well someone has to break the rule or they'll all sit there all day. (It happens in Bowness).
Once someone makes a break for it the the normal order kicks back in.
John.edwards
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actually, you have made a misinterpretation of even the road rules
•On roundabouts (traffic circles), vehicles already on the roundabout (coming from your right) have priority over those entering it. (http://www.justlanded.com/english/UK/Articles/Travel-Leisure/General-Road-Rules)
all rules need to be interpreted, but we just need the SAME interpretation
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Chrusty 1
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actually, you have made a misinterpretation of even the road rules
•On roundabouts (traffic circles), vehicles already on the roundabout (coming from your right) have priority over those entering it. (http://www.justlanded.com/english/UK/Articles/Travel-Leisure/General-Road-Rules)
all rules need to be interpreted, but we just need the SAME interpretation
But that is a rule, it doesn't need interpreting, it just needs everybody to comprehend it, then obey it.