Colregs (sort of...)?

[mikefleetwood]

Fisherman and I were pondering over a question yesterday evening:-

What lights should a Cornish Pilot Gig carry at night? It's about 32 feet long (10m-ish) "powered" by 6 oars.

Any ideas?

 

[Dyflin]

Rule 26

Fishing Vessels

(a) A vessel engaged in fishing, whether underway or at anchor, shall exhibit only the lights and shapes prescribed by this rule.

(b) A vessel when engaged in trawling, by which is meant the dragging through the water of a dredge net or other apparatus used as a fishing appliance, shall exhibit;

(i) two all-round lights in a vertical line, the upper being green and the lower white, or a shape consisting of two cones with their apexes together in a vertical line one above the other; a vessel of less than 20 meters in length may instead of this shape exhibit a basket;

(ii) a masthead light abaft of and higher than the all-round green light; a vessel of less than 50 meters in length shall not be obliged to exhibit such a light but may do so;

(iii) when making way through the water, in addition to the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

(c) A vessel engaged in fishing, other than trawling, shall exhibit:

(i) two all-round lights in a vertical line, the upper being red and the lower white, or a shape consisting of two cones with their apexes together in a vertical line one above the other; a vessel of less than 20 meters in length may instead of this shape exhibit a basket;

(ii)when there is outlying gear extending more than 150 meters horizontally from the vessel, an all-round white light or a cone apex upwards in the direction of the gear.

(iii) when making way through the water, in addition to the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

(d) A vessel engaged in fishing in close proximity to other vessels engaged in fishing may exhibit the additional signals described in Annex II to these Regulations.

(e) A vessel when not engaged in fishing shall not exhibit the lights or shapes prescribed in this Rule, but only those prescribed for a vessel of her length.

 

[Norman_E]

Not sure about Colregs (My copy is on the boat), but common sense says light it up so that others can see what and where it is.

 

[mel80]

Rule 25 (d) (ii)
A vessel under oars may exhibit the lights prescribed in this rule for sailing vessels, but if she does not, she shall have ready at hand an electric torch or lighted lantern showing a white light which shall be exhibited in sufficient time to prevent collision.

i.e. you can look like a sailing vessel if you want, but otherwise (and regardless of size) a torch is fine.

 

[VicS]

Port, starboard and stern, or bicolour and stern, or tricolour just like a sailing vessel or a torch:-

RULE 25
sailing vessels underway and vessels under oars

d (ii)
A vessel under oars may exhibit the lights prescribed in this Rule for sailing vessels,but
if she does not,she shall have ready at hand an electric torch or lighted lantern showing
a white light which shall be exhibited in sufficient time to prevent collision.

But see the whole lot at http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1781-2.pdf

 

[mikefleetwood]

Not a fishing vessel.

Yes, I think we concluded it would come down to a torch. I just wondered (tongue in cheek) if something else might be required?

 

[oldharry]

I didn't think Cornish Gigs out at night wanted to be seen..... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[shmoo]

Do you think a trireme would get away with a torch? There is at least one (reconstruction) round the Greek islands somewhere. Saw it a few years back.

* Overall length: 37 metres (121 feet)
* Overall beam: 5.5 metres (18 feet)
* 170 oarsmen in 3 files on each side: top file 31, middle and bottom 27 each
* Oarsmen spaced at 2 cubits (0.888 metres/2 feet 9 inches)
* One man per oar
* Oar length 4.2m (13 feet 8”) and 4.0m (13 feet) - short oars at ends of ship
* Speed: able to cover 184 sea miles at about 7.5 knots without stopping

 

[tillergirl]

What's so special about 184 miles? Why not 185? Do the crew go on strike? Will they do 200 sea miles at 5 knots? It's all Greek to me!

 

[VicS]

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What's so special about 184 miles?

[/ QUOTE ] The distance to the next branch of B&Q where they have to stop to buy a new battery for the torch!

 

[shmoo]

The website I got it from talked about the "olfactory disadvantage" of being in the bottom tier of rowers so I guess, to keep up the speed, it may be necessary for the crew to go on the heads, as it were.

Its Friday and I want to go sailing.

 

[jimbaerselman]

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I just wondered (tongue in cheek) if something else might be required?

[/ QUOTE ] Thinking of that red light were we? Well, if you were out offering your services as a pilot . . .

 

[roly_voya]

I use a rechargable camping lantern standingb on the bow thwart for the dingy, very visible and lights enough of the boat to show what it is. Visible at 1-2miles and more effective than a torch. Should work for a gig. The ones with a low energy tube seam to give the best light and last for 4-6h.

 

[Lakesailor]

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a vessel of less than 20 meters in length may instead of this shape exhibit a basket;

[/ QUOTE ]
Would that be wicker? How do you see it at night?

 

[mikefleetwood]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
a vessel of less than 20 meters in length may instead of this shape exhibit a basket;

[/ QUOTE ]
Would that be wicker? How do you see it at night?

[/ QUOTE ]
Put a lamp in it?

By the way, we also discussed the usefulness, or otherwise, of solar garden lamps as long-term anchor lights?

 

[Kawasaki]

Yeh ,why not go The Full 9 Yards, another 195.555, reccurirng times, ish
Well I,m not too sure about Yards.
Oh no silly boy, they got no Yards tissa wooden row boat innit?
Wooden boats--- it's all Teak to Me