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Re: Walton entrance

However out by No2 is where this took place, he tacked to avoid going east of No 2 - where there was plenty of water at that state of tide for a Sonata.

I don't mind him tacking. It just provides extra practice at close passing.

I once managed to nip across the back of the Ryde Ferry in a race and got a two boat length boost to windward from his propwash and a free surf from his wake , combined with the extra oomph from the sails as we were pushed to windward.

Moved me from last to first!
 
I agree with Fireball that a boat length would be reasonable for a close quarters manouvere.
But as I also pointed out. We weren't there, so we don't know the circumstances.
 
Re: Walton entrance

1m passing the stern of another indicates that you are in total control. Your will alone, was enough to make sure that the other boats halyards did not part as you approached. That you knew he had seen you and was not just about to go home for dinner. That his keel was not just going to foul some washed up fishing gear. It must be good to be in total control of the world.

By the way on our first ever trip out on a friends boat the keel fell off just as we got in the channel! Keel was dangling by the lift wire and the boat became erratic.


From another thread, out at sea with ships, and other yachts, it should be about 1/2 mile minimum. In closed waters then the other boat should be capable of doing a crash stop or a 360 without you hindering the pickup of a man overboard. In channels then it should be half the available space. (1/4 channel). Overtaking in a channel is overtaking and keeping clear means keeping clear not just missing.

Racing is for racers and nothing to do with real life and enjoying the water on a wonderful winters day.
 
Re: Walton entrance

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In channels then it should be half the available space. (1/4 channel).

[/ QUOTE ] Try that in the English Channel /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Twat.

To quote 'Fireball'

"Calling someone a "Twat" with no extra explanation is not helpful.
Call him a "Twat - because of X Y Z" if you must, but at least explain your insult. "

Please don't do this again - Keith (no relation) Walker
 
Good points? A barely baited hook is cast and the righteous gobble it up without taking breath. I once crossed behind a port-tack autohelmed boat close enough to hear the thud of the skipper's head and see his bare knees as I yelled "starboard" down his companionway. Should I have started a thread on the etiquette of so doing?
Oh! and he had a blue ensign ....
 
I'm with Walker.
I am sure you are a much better sailor than me and are braver, better looking and have bigger balls and nerves of steel.
Having conceded all that, there really is no need for you to pass within a metre of my stern to prove it.
In doing so all you prove is that you are a crap seaman and an inconsiderate pillock.
Or a troll merchant........
 
I'm sure a wise and intelligent person, and there are a lot of those in this forum, would have realised that by posting something to the whole world about my actions I was seeking advice and counsel so that I might consider responses and improve myself if there were useful comments to be heard.

There have been some very intelligent and well-reasoned posts in answer and those I shall take to heart.

There have been those that remain consigned to the holding tank.

I was neither seeking insults nor giving them.

It is such a shame that you should seek to demonstrate your ability to descend to the bilges.

For the record I learn something new every time I go sailing.

I consider cowardice one of the greatest virtues and merely have the standard Mk 1 Mod 0 nerves - except those in my chest which have gone off on a hypersensitive trip of their own.

My cojones are only of moderate size, conventional construction and, having proved that they work properly several times, a surgical intervention has rendered them purely for decoration.


If you wish to add to the debate please continue to post. Otherwise might one suggest you learn a modicum of courtesy.

Fair winds
 
Well said, Vitalman.

Personally, I don't see a metre as being "too close" in certain circumstances. I can't speak for your particular case, nor do I know how manouevrable your craft is. You've indicated that you gave way then rounded up to minimize your loss of ground - to me that is perfectly reasonable, as long as your initial alteration was bold enough to be readily apparent to the other vessel. I understand that you would be passing at an acute angle and wouldn't be in danger of t-boning the fellow; in the worst case scenario you would only graze him, which at 3 kts wouldn't be fatal.
I would suggest that if you passed close enough to take the wind from his sails, then he would rightly be miffed. If the manouevre shadowed your own sails, then you really didn't make up any lost ground.
This discussion has been very enlightening - thanks for starting it.
 
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Was he having a crap then?

I think you were disingenuous

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Apparently so. A port tack boat on a broad reach with no-one on watch required a closer look. I always heave-to on starboard when I have to attend to such calls of nature. "Disingenuous"? - in what way? I was on starboard after all.
 
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