BartW
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anybody who knows if sunbrella is fire retardant ?
where can I buy fire retardant spray (for fabrics) ?
where can I buy fire retardant spray (for fabrics) ?
Coding the boat, some practical questions
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Solitaire
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Google "Fire Retardent Spays" you will find a range of brands. About £10
As too Sunbrella, email them. They will send you the specs. I even got the fire retardent specs for the vinal on my rib seats by contacting the manufacturer. The surveyor said I could use the spray, I had to explain to him that the seats were waterproof so the spray was useless!
MapisM
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Geez, are these auditors for real?
Someone should tell them that GRP - all of it - is NOT fireproof, ffs.
Or do they expect coded GRP boats to be completely sprayed?
Someone should tell them that GRP - all of it - is NOT fireproof, ffs.
Or do they expect coded GRP boats to be completely sprayed?
jfm
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I know I know MapisM. And all the plywood bulkheads and stuff. Oh, and the 7 tonnes of diesel oil. Your sofas really are the very least you have to worry about if your baked alaska goes a bit crazy
But you just have to put up with this stuff. I always get note from Fairline to say my sofas are made with materials that satisfy the relevant standard, Brisitsh Standard 1234 or whatever it's called. In years gone by I've had auditors (not DL who is doing BA; he's a sensible guy) concerned that my radar reflector (pathetic piece of junk that it is) is not allowed to be inside a GRP locker, ffs. That's quite funny when you think about the stupid logic!
BartW
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Here the layout for the safety and seacock plan,
could you pls tell me if the wording is OK, no silly expressions, or language mistakes,
Or advice if the info should be adjusted,
before I laminate these ?
could you pls tell me if the wording is OK, no silly expressions, or language mistakes,
Or advice if the info should be adjusted,
before I laminate these ?
Talulah
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Suggest you add a month/year to the bottom of each card. Things may change over time. i.e. 04/13.
The word Mayday is inconsistent in "Sending a Mayday Message". Just use "Mayday" throughout.
The wording is not that clear. "herewith...."
Suspect you are not allowed to use MCA logo. It suggests the cards have been approved by the MCA.
The word Mayday is inconsistent in "Sending a Mayday Message". Just use "Mayday" throughout.
The wording is not that clear. "herewith...."
Suspect you are not allowed to use MCA logo. It suggests the cards have been approved by the MCA.
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timgriffin
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Mayday is wrong
MAYDAY x 3
This your NAME x 3 call sign and mmsi
repeat Mayday x1 name x 1 call sign and mmsi
My position is Lat Long or distance and bearing from something in degrees T
Nature of your distress eg fire grounding listing mob baked alaska burnt
I require immediate assistance
Number of persons onboard
Any other info eg abandoning to liferaft
Over
Apart from that looks very good though not sure why you would want it in drawer of guests as only the Captain can Authorise a Mayday dont want a sea sick guest sending one do you may be just snip that bit off
Tim
MAYDAY x 3
This your NAME x 3 call sign and mmsi
repeat Mayday x1 name x 1 call sign and mmsi
My position is Lat Long or distance and bearing from something in degrees T
Nature of your distress eg fire grounding listing mob baked alaska burnt
I require immediate assistance
Number of persons onboard
Any other info eg abandoning to liferaft
Over
Apart from that looks very good though not sure why you would want it in drawer of guests as only the Captain can Authorise a Mayday dont want a sea sick guest sending one do you may be just snip that bit off
Tim
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Powersalt
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Goodness , just read this whole post and see whats invlived with coding. I guess its not to be taken lightly. I have been looking at what is invlived in coding and any advantages etc and I do see that Princess have provided a full manual with a lot of these points covered, but like JFm I really dont fancy labels on everything as after all its a private vessal. Got me thinking if I wanted to hire out my boat to a friend for say 2 weeks, does it have to comply to all these regs or are they just for public
henryf
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You absolutely need to have the boat coded. One of the few convictions I'm aware of involved just such a situation.
The coding issue is a complex one with many contradictions. A valise life raft needs to be stored in a weather proof enclosure with a securely fastening door. A canister life raft however must be secured by way of an automatic release mechanism in the event of the ship sinking. You can fit either type or both !
I've just done my annual check and had the boat re-classified for more people with an associated stability test so MGN 280 is my current bedside reading
That said it does ensure you thoroughly check your boat regularly and have an understanding of safety equipment on board.
Henry
grumpy_o_g
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Really minor but, on the seacock plan, Anchor Shower I would normally call Anchor Wash and White Water I would call Fresh Water. On the Safety Information I would replace the word "Escapes" at the top with "Escape Routes" or "Emergency Exits". The only other thing is the Fuel Decantation Box. Is this simply something I've never known about or is it what I would a day tank or header tank?
vas
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just noticed, gog, I think the one at least of the white water is probably grey water? Bart? I remember you mentioned a 100something grey water tank!
V.
grumpy_o_g
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Actually, thinking about it, what's a tube rinse? Another one I've not heard but could well be my ignorance.
jfm
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Bart, I think those could do with a few language improvements, though only if you're being very fussy. Any chance of a Word or Publisher (or whatever) copy? Also I dont understand why you're listing things like float switches and rudder sensors
Henryf, I agree with you but I just want to remind people that you do not have to code to mgn280 and indeed I don't and wouldn't recommend it. The alternative yellow book is equally acceptable. 95% the same, but the differences can matter
Henryf, I agree with you but I just want to remind people that you do not have to code to mgn280 and indeed I don't and wouldn't recommend it. The alternative yellow book is equally acceptable. 95% the same, but the differences can matter
BartW
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its made on a mac, done by the same bloke who did the layouts of the boat,
I'm not sure on which program, just got PDF, i'll asc him what format he can provide.
you want it for corrections ?
the float switches etc... are on this plan, just for myself or any other assistent,
because it took me quite a while to take away the carpet, open all floor lockers, take out the box in the locker, to find the faulty floatswitch giving an alarm last summer.
same for the rudder sensor when my rudder indicator didn't work anymore.
very anoying when you don't know exactly and the util /room is full of scuba gear...
but yes now I know exactly where it sits.
BartW
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yes its grey water instead of white water, my mixup, as the opponent of the black water
BartW
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I'm not sure about the name,
but it could be a usefull appliance,
there are two 60mm diamer black PE tubes all along the length of the boat, one for grey and one for black water collection.
in this spot there is a Y split in each tube, with a lid on one leg, that can be used for flushing the tube.
I noticed this a while back when searching the location of a floater switch, and thought it could be usefull in case of a constipation.
how would you call this ?
BartW
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again I'm not sure about the name,
its a name used by the previous captain, so Ital english
its a metal box where on one side come in hoses from the fuel tanks,
and on the other side outlets to the fuel pre filters for engines and genny's.
one compartment for each side engine/genny /tanks.
there is a drain tap on the bottom on each side.
the function of this box is: water separation, and dirt collection.
I've been told that this box is a retrofit part, not there originally,
though it looks very old and a bit rusty, (custome made)
I've drained this box with each fuel filter replacement, and yes there was some dirty fuel coming out.
rafiki_
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Bart, I would call this a fuel separator then.
BartW
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good idea, I like that !
I had the idea of writing in this document the date of the last replacement of all seacocks,
fe. writing 201305 behind the name
some I have to replace this year (a valuable observation from the surveyor)
but one day I won't know how old the seacocks are.
Q.
how often would you normally replace seacocks?
iirc mine are replaced in 2009, and some will be replaced again in 2013.
I've been told every 5 years ?
grumpy_o_g
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Ah, OK. A tube is a pipe if it's rigid or hose if it's flexible. Rinse is more a wash down with fresh water (or whatever). If you're putting water down a pipe to clear a blockage we would say flushing as in flushing a toilet. Constipation only happens to people btw - pipes and hoses and stuff get blocked.
I understand exactly what you mean but not sure what I'd call it, flushing point perhaps. Do the coding people really want that on the card even if though doesn't go through the hull? I have to say you describe things really well. I wish half the folk I work with (who laughingly claim English as their native tongue) could do the same.