CO2 gas bottle for lifejacket on Ryanair flights?

[Vega1447]

Hi.
Probably a FAQ - apologies if so.
Chartering in Croatia next week and thought I'd bring my lifejacket in checkin luggage.
That's no problem of course but not sure about the CO2 gas bottle.

The Ryanair site prohibits "Gas and gas containers".
So the screw-in CO2 bottle is prohibited?

If so maybe ask the charter company if they can supply?

Any advice welcome.

Thanks.

 

[RivalRedwing]

get clear approval from the airline in writing for travel in both directions, before travelling.

 

[Delfini]

This from the EasyJet help and faq web page

“Small non flammable gas cylinders, containing carbon dioxide or other suitable gas in Division 2.2. Up two (2) small cylinders fitted into a life jacket, and up to two (2) spare cartridges per person, not more than four (4) cylinders up to 50 ml water capacity for other devices.”

 

[Graham376]

Ryanair site says they're OK but suggest you print out the page as security jobsworths may argue the point - Permitted Items onboard – Ryanair Help Centre

 

[RivalRedwing]

Essential you print the paperwork out, we had a real challenge in Athens a few years ago, neither the airport nor the pilot knew the correct answer.

 

[Frogmogman]

Essential you print the paperwork out, we had a real challenge in Athens a few years ago, neither the airport nor the pilot knew the correct answer.

Ironic, as planes are full of the blooming things.

 

[Graham376]

Ironic, as planes are full of the blooming things.

But they'll be CAA/FAA certified at ten times the cost

 

[RivalRedwing]

Ironic, as planes are full of the blooming things.

that was something that I highlighted.... the pilot's view was, as I recall, no CAA logo, no take on the aircraft....we ended up leaving the lifejackets at Athens... and claiming reimbursment off the airline on our return to the UK

 

[Vega1447]

that was something that I highlighted.... the pilot's view was, as I recall, no CAA logo, no take on the aircraft....we ended up leaving the lifejackets at Athens... and claiming reimbursment off the airline on our return to the UK

Surely only the bottle was an issue?

The lj is just a.... jacket?

 

[Beneteau381]

Hi.
Probably a FAQ - apologies if so.
Chartering in Croatia next week and thought I'd bring my lifejacket in checkin luggage.
That's no problem of course but not sure about the CO2 gas bottle.

The Ryanair site prohibits "Gas and gas containers".
So the screw-in CO2 bottle is prohibited?

If so maybe ask the charter company if they can supply?

Any advice welcome.

Thanks.

I brought two jkts back from Portugal on Ryanair. Rules are simple, unscrew the bottles, thats it, both can be carried

 

[Beneteau381]

Hi.
Probably a FAQ - apologies if so.
Chartering in Croatia next week and thought I'd bring my lifejacket in checkin luggage.
That's no problem of course but not sure about the CO2 gas bottle.

The Ryanair site prohibits "Gas and gas containers".
So the screw-in CO2 bottle is prohibited?

If so maybe ask the charter company if they can supply?

Any advice welcome.

Thanks.

https://help.ryanair.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360017824938-Permitted-Items-onboard

 

[Goldie]

Carried LJs (one per person) on Ryanair with no problem as hold baggage. IIRC, a spare cartridges permitted too (so 2 cartridges in total). If you’re worried, phone the airport ahead and print out the Ryanair policy and the ICAO restrictions.

 

[Beneteau381]

Carried LJs (one per person) on Ryanair with no problem as hold baggage. IIRC, a spare cartridges permitted too (so 2 cartridges in total). If you’re worried, phone the airport ahead and print out the Ryanair policy and the ICAO restrictions.

See my link above

 

[Graham376]

Surely only the bottle was an issue?

The lj is just a.... jacket?

Yes but in Portugal for instance, you can't buy a replacement CO2 cylinder so the jacket's useless. When I tried to buy cylinders last week as one of ours is rusty, was told life jackets have to be sent for servicing and certification.

 

[colind3782]

Lost two cylinders at Girona airport a while ago as the security staff wouldn't allow us through with them. Print out the page.

 

[Sandy]

I flew to Faro a few weeks ago. No problems with Ryanair and LJs I just unscrewed the CO2 bottle. If it did go off it would not inflate the jacket and in my experience when they do it's more like a fart than an ounce of TNT.

 

[RupertW]

I’ve flown multiple times with life jackets on Ryanair and EasyJet. I have always checked them in, never mentioned them, never printed out the rules but have had the page available on my phone. Last time was 4 lifejackets on Ryanair to Canaries in April.

 

[mjcoon]

I flew to Faro a few weeks ago. No problems with Ryanair and LJs I just unscrewed the CO2 bottle. If it did go off it would not inflate the jacket and in my experience when they do it's more like a fart than an ounce of TNT.

I wonder how they compare with the Sparklets syphon CO2 bulbs I used to use to power my schoolboy toy boats?

 

[Slowboat35]

Blimey! Again?
This must be the fifteenth thread on this non-subject.

Why is it difficult for people ro simply read the Terms and Conditions of carriage of the airline? They are all the same, and all published en clair on the airline's website for all to read!

There is NO problem with carrying one LJ and usually 2 spare gas cartriges on ANY airline, whether it be in carry-on or hold baggage per person. That's it!

In carry-on bags 'security' may be another matter - but they too are supposed to abide by ICAO rules and also have no reason whatsoever to deny carriage in hand baggage bar invoking "local procedures" which, without invoking specific local security reasons amounts to no less than harrasment. Accepted that in other jurisdictions and sometimes at less Professionally run UK 'security' stations you may encounter an individual jobsworth problem, but this is not reasonable or defensible. In UK an appeal to the security management (always present by law) with reference to the Airline's Ts and Cs should suffice. A copy of the airline's Ts ad Cs on your mobile should be more than enough, and a formal complaint lodged afterwards.

In hold baggage there is no excuse for objection, ever.

Every airline you are ever likely to fly on abides by internationally accepted ICAO rules. The carriage of personal life-jackets and spare cartridges is specifically addressed therein, and that verbiage will be identical and verbatim to that in the airline's Ts and Cs.

Anyone trying to tell you otherise is trying it on or ignorant of the rules. When that happens you are rather on your own I'm afraid, but the trouble will always be with 'security' and never with the airline.

Contacting the airline (leave alone the airport itself, as someone optimistically suggested) in advance is a complete waste of time - they have no control whatsoever over 'security' or any baggage surveillance.

In reality I've never found this a problem, nor come across anyone who has. I think it is very uncommon, but if it does occur should be easily rectified by eference to the resources mentioned above, which everyone in the airline and travel industry knows and understands full well.

If this happens in Italy, Turkey or Greece (etc) you may be in another world of discussion entirely.