Cleats in Bathing Platform

jrudge said:
Maybe ... worried about toes ( flush or not!) and the further back they go the more they are under the tender.

That part is all but inaccessible anyway - but for winter I will find a way. Small child!
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Yup, indeed even if I rarely have small kids onboard, not hurting anyone's toes is a concern I also had.
Fwiw, I can confirm that in this respect the cleats I used are excellent, because even if they still protrude by 10mm or so when lowered, all their borders are very smooth and rounded, so you would struggle to hurt your foot against them even if you would try - as I did, in fact! :encouragement:

In this respect, also the model linked by BartW is beautifully machined, and even more flush, but the central hole is large enough to allow a toe getting stuck inside it, with potentially bad consequences.
I'm now playing advocate's devil a bit, mind. But I'm aware of an accident with a cheap passerelle whose teak grating was larger than normal, allowing a toe to get trapped inside its holes, and the principle is the same...
Not sure if they come with some plastic bit allowing to fill the hole while the cleats aren't used, though. Maybe they do.

Cleat model aside, ref. routing the base to make it completely flush, I really wouldn't bother.
I don't think that would add much, neither in terms of safety, nor aesthetic - but each to their own on that. :)
 
MapisM said:
Yup, indeed even if I rarely have small kids onboard, not hurting anyone's toes is a concern I also had.
Fwiw, I can confirm that in this respect the cleats I used are excellent, because even if they still protrude by 10mm or so when lowered, all their borders are very smooth and rounded, so you would struggle to hurt your foot against them even if you would try - as I did, in fact! :encouragement:)
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Thanks for your link in BartW's thread - they look great. On reflection and looking at pics of my boat, and yours, I think 2 would work well, in a similar position to where you have located yours. I have asked them for a price as they are not shown on their website.
 
markc said:
Thanks for your link in BartW's thread - they look great.
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Just in case you didn't do the job yet, I came across an SX88 video where the very same cleats I previously posted can be seen on the swim platform corners.
Btw, one is raised and the other is lowered.
They are not meant as main cleats, and in fact they are the same size of mine - the larger ones are huge!
But if they're good enough for the SX88, they are bound to be fine for our boats too, I reckon...
I'm attaching a snaphot below, but if you feel like drooling a bit, you can also click on it and see the full video. :)
 
MapisM said:
Just in case you didn't do the job yet, I came across an SX88 video where the very same cleats I previously posted can be seen on the swim platform corners.
Btw, one is raised and the other is lowered.
They are not meant as main cleats, and in fact they are the same size of mine - the larger ones are huge!
But if they're good enough for the SX88, they are bound to be fine for our boats too, I reckon...
I'm attaching a snaphot below, but if you feel like drooling a bit, you can also click on it and see the full video. :)
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Thanks P! I clicked and drooled.
 
Portofino said:
Only in Italy :encouragement:
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Yup, and with pride, if I may say so.
Though tbh my favorite boat in the sub-24m segment (well, formally "sub", anyway) remains the SD92.
The SX88 is stunning in many ways, but I just can't get my head round the idea of having IPS on a proper vessel... :ambivalence:
 
MapisM said:
Yup, and with pride, if I may say so.
Though tbh my favorite boat in the sub-24m segment (well, formally "sub", anyway) remains the SD92.
The SX88 is stunning in many ways, but I just can't get my head round the idea of having IPS on a proper vessel... :ambivalence:
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Agree
Also the FB glass electrically retracts at the touch of a button .
Never mind Yam outboard hood cowl latches ceasing up 24 hrs post warranty :) , ? - in another thread on here .
One grain of salt left behind in the glass mechanism and there’s trouble there too .
So along with IPS ,the most hydraulic rams ever fitted in the stern “ beach club “ , the glass etc - it’s a get out PDQ after the warranties are up .

There was not much interest btw folks walked right by to the real / proper SL ,s further on .
Which were buzzing .
 
Nice vid Mapism - Porto Venere of course
Much as I like SL mainstream flybridges and SD series, I have mixed views on sx88. Nice design study and I love the concept of press button glass enclosure of fly for cooler weather - that is clever, if reliable, and it means you don't need a lower helm which is a big benefit. On the downside, and just imho too much deck space lost to the toys, interior is spartan (though that is owner's choice so not too relevant), davits aren't the quickest way to launch a dinghy. Technically I don't love IPS but I gotta admit that Delta 88 is on my wish list so I can't hate them. Weirdly the sx88 stab fins are a long way back and I'd be worried about fishtailing. That could be checked out though. I also worry that SL use a lot of subcontractors and too many choices are price driven in search of profit such that they don't always fit the best gear - look at the highly lensed thin beam cheap underwater lights for example. Thus I would never say (of cleats or of anything else) that if SL fit them they must be great.
First world problems tho and I might do a new build thread on SL78 or 86 one of these days :)
 
jfm said:
Porto Venere of course
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Indeed. Not a bad playground to have for a boatbuilder, just round the corner from the factory...

Fwiw, I agree that the SX88 is a bit of a curate's egg.
IPS aside, she feels to me like a boat designed to appeal to people who pretend to be lifelong salty dogs, while actually all they have in mind is a party platform for Med weekends in SoF, or for posh marinas hopping around the Bonifacio Strait during the longer August holidays.
In other words, boaters which are just about the opposite of those interested in their EXP battleship, in spite of the fact that the SX actually reminds her a bit, albeit obviously on a much smaller scale.
Otoh, I suspect that this is exactly the target that SL had in mind when they briefed Micheli for the SX design, and if so, it's undeniable that he did a great job.

Ref. the fins positions, are you guessing it from the video, or did you already know where they are?
I haven't yet seen any pics of the boat on the hard, nor drawings, but I did wonder if the foam visible at 2:10 was created by the fins, because that really appears way too astern.
Otoh, by now fin stabilized boats are very far from being Sanlorenzo's first rodeo, so it would be very weird if they made Aquastar-like mistakes...
Maybe it has something to see with IPS, 'dunno.

Regardless, an SL built M3 would definitely make an epic thread, go for it!
If you don't mind slowing down a bit, in your boots I'd definitely consider also the SD, even if their new "small" SLs are really things of beauty.
Either ways, I'm sure they wouldn't mind fitting whatever Lumishore stuff you wish to have... :cool:

PS: ref. the cleats, actually I chose them before even knowing that SL use them, for the records.
My comment above ref. being fine for my and markc's boat if they are good enough for the SX88 was more related to size/strength than quality - though I can assure you that they are indeed very well built.
 
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Yes to all that.

They were visible at Düsseldorf. Hull #2 I think.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...#imgdii=s0vC1AF-tbrEWM:&imgrc=ko_WAQp0nPTTDM:

Also zoom in on this picture. You can see the fin. It's hull #3
https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/news/third-sanlorenzo-sx88-yacht-launched--36339
Fins roughly lined up with top of "C pillar". Don't go by portholes as they are different across all three hulls.

If you look at any online profile photo of the boat, that positioning is quite aft.

Then at bottom of this page you have line drawing. Fin also level with top of C pillar so the built boats are same as this line drawing. http://itayachtscanada.com/new-sanlorenzo-sx88-2018/

I think the fins look quite aft, that's all. They might work ok. I'd want to check.

Separately, the poor sx88 has SanLorenzo's trademark totally hideous helm stations
with a rectangular block of foam to sit on and touch screens that only a gorilla can reach. My SL would need a totally reworked helm station!
 
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As per earlier in the thread I have had the need to put some stern springs on without fouling the tender. MapisM pointed me in the direction of Fouresti & Suardi and I bought a couple of the 260mm Cleats. Approx £500 delivered

http://timage.eu/marine/cleats-fairleads/735-9320cleats.html#/537-cleats_length-260mm

I have now installed them - one side was restricted by the bathing ladder, so both sides are equidistant from the edge. I fitted them with an 18mm marine ply base inside. Both the cleat and the backing plate were bedded in with CT1

Here are some pics. It was a very easy DIY job

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Thanks for the advice!
 
U R welcome!
That's a very clean job, but isn't the accessibility on port side a bit difficult?
It looks like you've got a rather large tender for the boat size... :cool:

PS: as an aside, do you know that behind the round alu cover right above the platform on port side there's a storage for a spare shaft?
'Scuse me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, but I came across a Ferretti owner who was completely unaware of that.
 
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MapisM said:
U R welcome!
That's a very clean job, but isn't the accessibility on port side a bit difficult?
It looks like you've got a rather large tender for the boat size... :cool:

PS: as an aside, do you know that behind the round alu cover right above the platform on port side there's a storage for a spare shaft?
'Scuse me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, but I came across a Ferretti owner who was completely unaware of that.
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Thanks. TBH access was better than I imagined so was easy on both sides.

The tender is a 3.5m Lomac RIB - it's quite a lump but great fun!

Yes I knew about the spare shaft, that's in there and a spare pair of props inside the bathing platform too. I hope I don't need to call on either type of spare!
 
jrudge said:
Looks good. You will probably need to install drains on the “stubs” inside if not to get water in the stern.

I have mine on board. Winter job !
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Thanks! The bathing platform bilge is separate to the rest of the boat and does get a small amount of water ingress from the huge hatches, so I'm happy for the small amount from the cleats to drip in there too.

The cleats arrived with studding and regular nuts, but I swapped them for nyloc to stop any vibration induced loose nuts...said the actress....
 
markc said:
As per earlier in the thread I have had the need to put some stern springs on without fouling the tender. MapisM pointed me in the direction of Fouresti & Suardi and I bought a couple of the 260mm Cleats. Approx £500 delivered
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Nice job. I've had pop up cleats on the bathing platform on my current and previous Ferretti. They are susceptible to getting gummed up with salt deposits so you need to wash them with freshwater regularly and maybe spray a bit of WD40 on them occasionally to keep them popping up
 
Having tripped over the crossed stern lines 3 times I've stopped doing it. Each time went down wallop and each time covered in bruises and once fell onto the pontoon and took all the skin off one arm and leg. Now I just run the lines normally - port side going to port etc. Can't say I've noticed any difference with sideways movement of the stern … the lines stay as taught as necessary without being crossed and keep the boat in place. I'm on the last finger with a big pontoon astern. Maybe it's different if you're Med moored? I've got those big fenders bolted to the pontoon for the side and 2 for the stern which saves hanging fenders out on my home berth.
 
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