Classic boats/wooden boats: Welcome to a new forum here.

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Hi all you dyed in the wool traditionalists.

Now that Classic Boat has turned into a coffee table magazine, and the CB forum is barely alive, lets start a new section here for classic boats of all sorts, old and new.

Just pre-fix your new posts with 'CB:' or 'Classic boat' in any of the forums, and we can start our own section within the popular and vibrant boating community already here, not be sidelined into some dead end specialist section where nobody visits.

What would you like to discuss?

I'll start..

Is it morally acceptable to use Burmese teak on your boat, when everybody knows its not being sustainably sourced? Forests are being clear felled, and teak is being smuggled abroad to hide the origin of the timber, and then being labelled 'From a renewable source.' Japan is the main culprit, importing enormous quantities for traditional wooden house building. And now that Burma has taken the first steps towards democracy, what happens next.......

But what else can you use on a classic boat...... fake plastic teak?
 
rustybarge said:
Hi all you dyed in the wool traditionalists.

Now that Classic Boat has turned into a coffee table magazine, and the CB forum is barely alive, lets start a new section here for classic boats of all sorts, old and new.

Just pre-fix your new posts with 'CB:' or 'Classic boat' in any of the forums, and we can start our own section within the popular and vibrant boating community already here, not be sidelined into some dead end specialist section where nobody visits.

What would you like to discuss?

I'll start..

Is it morally acceptable to use Burmese teak on your boat, when everybody knows its not being sustainably sourced? Forests are being clear felled, and teak is being smuggled abroad to hide the origin of the timber, and then being labelled 'From a renewable source.' Japan is the main culprit, importing enormous quantities for traditional wooden house building. And now that Burma has taken the first steps towards democracy, what happens next.......

But what else can you use on a classic boat...... fake plastic teak?
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I have a stock of Burmese teak, all felled years ago, this is quality stuff not that renewable rubbish with open soft grain
 
sailorman said:
I have a stock of Burmese teak, all felled years ago, this is quality stuff not that renewable rubbish with open soft grain
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It's like gold...it can only go up in price! Now that global deforestation is the main topic of conversation, 'real' teak is going to become a rare as hens teeth.

Here's our del quay dory, one owner from new in 1968, teak seat, been outside for 46 years never varnished.
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Ok, it's rotten in places, but that's pretty impressive.
 
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Morally you have to make your own choice as to what sort of timber (or not to use)



rustybarge said:
Hi all you dyed in the wool traditionalists.

Now that Classic Boat has turned into a coffee table magazine, and the CB forum is barely alive, lets start a new section here for classic boats of all sorts, old and new.

Just pre-fix your new posts with 'CB:' or 'Classic boat' in any of the forums, and we can start our own section within the popular and vibrant boating community already here, not be sidelined into some dead end specialist section where nobody visits.

What would you like to discuss?

I'll start..

Is it morally acceptable to use Burmese teak on your boat, when everybody knows its not being sustainably sourced? Forests are being clear felled, and teak is being smuggled abroad to hide the origin of the timber, and then being labelled 'From a renewable source.' Japan is the main culprit, importing enormous quantities for traditional wooden house building. And now that Burma has taken the first steps towards democracy, what happens next.......

But what else can you use on a classic boat...... fake plastic teak?
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I have a feeling that the Sale of the Classic Boat Forum to Chelsea Publishing will have included some paragraphs pertaining to not re-starting a classic/wooden boat forum on here.
 
We have missed the old CB, our boat Hermees is 50 years old this year,loads of old teak.



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rich said:
We have missed the old CB, our boat Hermees is 50 years old this year,loads of old teak.



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I've always thought that your boat is one of the nicest on YBW.

The CB Forum is quiet because people don;t use it! That's their choice, no thing much to do with CB, they have hosted a forum, what more do you want them to do?
 
burgundyben said:
no thing much to do with CB, they have hosted a forum, what more do you want them to do?
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Leave it where it was, next door to these busy forums, so people pop their heads round the door from time to time.

Though I suspect the shift of the magazine away from caulking and red lead towards coffee-table pictures of millionaires' boats probably has as much of an effect, by losing readership and goodwill.

Pete
 
I have a shortcut to it on my header bar, exactly where you suggest, next to the YBW forum shortcut. I rarely use these days though.
 
Does the mizzen sail really stop you rolling?
What sort engines do you have?
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The sail takes a lot of the roll out, and keeps her into wind at anchor,
the engines are perkins 4108s from 1974.

And this is our other vessel,even older.

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in Paimpol.
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A decent classic boat forum on here would be welcomed again. I did try to use the new CB forum, but its all a bit "la-de-da" for me now. The mag is pure keich, aimed at the poshy sort of twats with bottomless pockets and massive ego's.

Ive got a 1936 clinker sailing dinghy, a 1947 Hillyard 2.5 ton, and my old man has a 1969 Stella. I also have a nice 1979 E-Boat, and she's not far of being a classic herself! lol
Oh, and theres the Mirror dinghy I just bought and restored, but its a 1993 version, albeit wooden! Still a classic.

I remember telling someone that plastic yachts were the ones for me. Slap a bottom on her and go sailing. Where did I ever begin to contradict myself?? I have a problem.....;)
 
Even Chance said:
A decent classic boat forum on here would be welcomed again. I did try to use the new CB forum, but its all a bit "la-de-da" for me now. The mag is pure keich, aimed at the poshy sort of twats with bottomless pockets and massive ego's.

Ive got a 1936 clinker sailing dinghy, a 1947 Hillyard 2.5 ton, and my old man has a 1969 Stella. I also have a nice 1979 E-Boat, and she's not far of being a classic herself! lol
Oh, and theres the Mirror dinghy I just bought and restored, but its a 1993 version, albeit wooden! Still a classic.

I remember telling someone that plastic yachts were the ones for me. Slap a bottom on her and go sailing. Where did I ever begin to contradict myself?? I have a problem.....;)
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My first boat was a mirror (plywood version) Found in a skip, then given to me in exchange for something owed to me for something else( senior moment). It had a massive hole in the hull, easy to patch up a bit of Grp. I then built a cowes punt from a plan in classic boat. The Gunter rig is far far superior to the lug sail, but I did get the amazing buzz of building your own boat!

I fear that the world has moved on from tinkering with old boats. Every hobby my children take up consists of ready made kit. Ready made r/c helicopters, planes, cars.....even computers come in pre-assemblies units that are connected up on ready built mother boards. We live in the modern age of instant gratification.

My biggest project was to build a steel 60' By 13' steel barge; massive amount of work, still not finished on the interior.

My experience is the more effort it is to build a project, the more pleasure you get from it.

Latest project is a 7 mtr catamaran, Grp hull, with home built wooden superstructure.
 
Yep, your so right there!

I get my fun from doing up these old boats. The plan was to sell some of them eventually, but that doesnt seem to be happening!

The next project for me is the Hillyard. She is just so beautiful. I toying with the idea of giving her a gaff cutter rig with a nice wee bowsprit as the original sloop mast needs replacing anyway, and the old sails are well past their best.

Heres pics of my Hillyard and my old dinghy, as well as a wee lug rigged dinghy I made for my son to learn to sail in. Its all good fun messing about with wooden boats!
 
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