LittleSister
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Interesting and curious!
Circumnavigation.
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Interesting and curious!
coopec
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The hull and rigging have been strengthened and the interior of the yacht has been limited to the essential appliences.
The cabin can be hermetically closed, and the hull can still remain floating on the water, even in case of an accident and a complete water flooding inside.
Most of the innovative changes made in the Puffin, were based on the yacht class Mini – eg. There is an emergency evacuation look on the stern.
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KellysEye
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>Well, of course we don't know whether he actually had a watermaker.
Water makers have to a have high pressure to get water through a membrane to remove the salt, this takes a lot of power which needs a large battery bank which won't fit in a small yacht.
Water makers have to a have high pressure to get water through a membrane to remove the salt, this takes a lot of power which needs a large battery bank which won't fit in a small yacht.
coopec
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If he only needed two liters of water a day a manual water-maker would do fine?
Clive
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macd
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It requires no battery bank at all if it's a manual one. This was the implication in the words about him having "the use of a limb or two", which seems somehow to have sneaked past your keen powers of observation.
There's a link much earlier in the thread to a well-known example. Or just click on the jpg in Coopec's most recent post.
Coopec: the words you quoted are mine from #37, not KellysEyewash. He has a confusingly singular way of using quotes.
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Lon nan Gruagach
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And just what is so amazing about an average speed of 4.7 knots?
Ok, there's a bear trap here and to save a load of needless posts about hull speed...
Are you, perhaps, forgetting ocean current speed?
Kukri
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I am now thoroughly confused.
Are we talking about a circumnavigation, with stops, on the trade wind route, taking two years, or a circumnavigation, non stop, via the Great Capes, taking 270 days, or both?
Either way, the boat seems to be a highly (and sensibly) modified 22 ft trailer sailer, and part of the background is that it was a "stunt" to promote the boat.
I still want to see a sensible interview by someone who knows what he or she* is talking about.
* Ideally, Elaine Bunting. She can sail, and write.
Are we talking about a circumnavigation, with stops, on the trade wind route, taking two years, or a circumnavigation, non stop, via the Great Capes, taking 270 days, or both?
Either way, the boat seems to be a highly (and sensibly) modified 22 ft trailer sailer, and part of the background is that it was a "stunt" to promote the boat.
I still want to see a sensible interview by someone who knows what he or she* is talking about.
* Ideally, Elaine Bunting. She can sail, and write.
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LittleSister
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I'm amazed.
Kelpie
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Suggest you look up Matt Rutherford, he sailed around the Americas (via NW passage and Cape Horn) in a 27ft boat in 311 days. Used a Katadyn manual watermaker. And a lot of diesel for the Arctic bit, but that's beside the point.
KellysEye
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> non stop, via the Great Capes, taking 270 days
Yes that's what he did. On the subject of hand held water makers we had one in grab bag for the liferaft, the best quality ones are Katadtyn but they are not cheap. Their producer of the lowest amount of water around is around $900 and the one that produces the highest is around $2,000. Having tested ours it was really hard work because of the high pressure needed, so what I did is make an extension that fitted the handle to give it more power, even with that fitted it wasn't that easy to make water. We a 240 volt industrial water maker, they last longer, powered by a generator.
Yes that's what he did. On the subject of hand held water makers we had one in grab bag for the liferaft, the best quality ones are Katadtyn but they are not cheap. Their producer of the lowest amount of water around is around $900 and the one that produces the highest is around $2,000. Having tested ours it was really hard work because of the high pressure needed, so what I did is make an extension that fitted the handle to give it more power, even with that fitted it wasn't that easy to make water. We a 240 volt industrial water maker, they last longer, powered by a generator.
KellysEye
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I forgot to mention in the above post what my view in hindsight is about hand held water makers. I think for in a life raft it's a must have because you really don't want to run of water. But I wouldn't recommend it for daily use because would be too much hard work and takes too long to make the water you need. Fit an electrical one and all you have to do is turn it on, off and use the container to fill the water tank much faster.
coopec
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I think a bit of exercise would do him a lot of good it would have been something interesting to do and I don't think time would be a problem!
I will eventually install a water-maker on my yacht although it is not a priority. As far as size is concerned I note there are quite a few second-hand ones on the market because people are up-sizing.
Clive
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slawosz
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As someone who understands polish, I could give a little backstory to Szymon history. He was one of many young Baltic skippers with no money, but with many dream, and unlike many courage to make them true. As I can recall, he had different jobs - one was bike courier. He could not afford a kayak alone, which from perspective of owners of 30+ feet yachts might be quite abstract. In 2012 he builded Setka (Hundred) - cheap, 16ft (5 meters) yacht to cross the Atlantic. It was informal race organised by Setka constructor, Janusz Maderski. He designed many yachts that are easy to build by amateurs, from 10 ft dinghies to 50 ft ocean cruisers. Total cost of Setka was somehow below 2000 GBP, which is less than you would pay for good GP14 with race equipment. And he builded parts of the boat in his flat...
And they sailed from Portugal to Caribbean without problems. In 2016 edition, there were 8 Setka's taking part (6 singlehanded, 2 with double crew). In 2020 I think there will be close to 20 boats. All participants should build boat by themselves and document it on their blogs, like here: https://setkaqubi.blogspot.com.
Of course, transport to Portugal is on owner cost, and there is little sponsorship - like sails, but remember, there were sails for 16 ft boat...
I can't recall all details, but first version of this boat had 30 years mast from other boat and old, modified sails from popular polish 20ft dinghy...
Since then, Szymon circumnavigated globe twice on Maxus 22 (the same boat). I don't know financial details, for circumnavigation he got some support from sponsors. But boat is probably worth less then 20k GBP with modifications and I would say 10k GBP for equipment. There was no prize whatsoever, so mentioning Donald Crowhurst is quite unfair. Today, for Golden Globe prize you could buy Contessa 32 and spend 5 years on board.
Regarding water, he had 600 litres, and modern expedition food one day portion weights around 500 g (1 lb) per day. Its not very tasty, but does a job. He had The Survivor-06 watermaker (0.9 litres per hour) in grab bag.
So he is simply person with very high sailing and adventure drive and doesn't mind risking to achieve his goals, and don't need big boat to sail. And yes, Maxus 22 (basic one) has rating C, as was design for lakes, but his had long keel with bulb: https://www.jachting.com/sites/jach...arize_1065/public/australia.jpg?itok=gKhe3SxY
If you have particular questions, I can answer them - there is lot of details about his voyages in polish speaking sailing boards (he did not get to mainstream media at all). You can read a bit on his website: http://www.zewoceanu.pl/About-our-projects
saab96
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Check out Arrandir, a home built yawl 14ft long, that crossed from Sweden to the US Eastern Seaboard and back via the Azores. Can't remember his website. Hell of a journey. When we met Sebastian Naslund in Horta. His parting comments as we helped cast him off were: “I’m so happy today. I know that when I reach Sweden I shall never single-hand on such a small boat again.” He was at sea a total of 195 days during his Atlantic circuit.
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Total respect for the sailor, little money, no facilities, gets on with it and does the job. A great story and inspirational.
I catch a lot of water from my mainsail which splashes onto the side deck and into the water filler, placed in that position to catch water. I imagine it would be very easy to keep his water supplies topped up. The food supply is a no brainer either as mentioned in previous posts.
I catch a lot of water from my mainsail which splashes onto the side deck and into the water filler, placed in that position to catch water. I imagine it would be very easy to keep his water supplies topped up. The food supply is a no brainer either as mentioned in previous posts.
Babylon
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Thank you for this information. The achievements - both in building his boat and in the solo circumnavigation - are great. The failure seems to be on the part of a journalist who originally dangled a tasty morsel of a news story but walked away without giving any real meat to it.
Any idea whether he stopped anywhere or other (non-speculative) information on his arrangements for food and water?
slawosz
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His second circumnavigation (2017-2018) was non stop. He had to fix mast (with epoxy) after it was bend around Horn, which slows him down a little.
Here are some pictures from the day of the departure: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WVJGSUwxOUg5MjBHdzNEcHdfSmxYeU0zWGhOTE5n
Only one picture from inside, but shows 'mess' before. His blog is not very detailed - only thing I noticed there is that he mentioned that yacht was overweight at the beginning of the journey. Maxus 22 is very room'y - in general polish yachts nowadays are.
I will ask about food and water arrangements on polish forum.
slawosz
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Birdseye
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lots of negatives on here and some will be from sailors who havent even crossed the channel!. The Polish guy did good. More courage than I have got. Well dont.
Suppose it wont be repeated - after Brexit he wouldnt be able to start from here would he?
Suppose it wont be repeated - after Brexit he wouldnt be able to start from here would he?