Chichester Harbour Conservancy fees hike

Just to put it all in context, (even after the increases mentioned above) the annual fees for Chichester are significantly cheaper than those on the Hamble, and you have that whole beautiful harbour to explore.

3-4m boat: Chi £22.46, Hamble £48.48
6-7m boat: Chi £52.83, Hamble £113.12
9-10m boat: Chi £94.80, Hamble £145.44
12-13m boat: Chi £148.35, Hamble £193.92

I do note though that Hamble doesn't bother going after sailing dinghies, tenders, kayaks etc. Probably decided it isn't worth the effort.

Every day's a school day. I've no idea how many times I've been up the Hamble as a visitor, and I had no idea a fee was required, including a few times on the Harbour Masters Pontoon where there was no mention of Harbour Dues. Weird.

Having said that I'm pretty sure boats visiting Chichester and Langstone Harbours rarely think to pay dues.
 
I have just checked last years' dues and this year.

For my 22' boat on a club C3 mooring, and 2.8 metre tender,

Last year was £54.10

2017 - £58.83

So I'm very pleasantly surprised, happy with that.

I suspect Fantasie 19 with his 20' boat must be at just the wrong size re the new Conservancy fee - bands, to get clobbered so severely.

I think the 22' fee has gone up a lot proportionately ( I don't have a breakdown of last year's total ) but the change in tender fees has compensated for it in my case.

My comments about where my money goes still stand...
 
I have just checked last years' dues and this year.

For my 22' boat on a club C3 mooring, and 2.8 metre tender,

Last year was £54.10

2017 - £58.83

So I'm very pleasantly surprised, happy with that.

I suspect Fantasie 19 with his 20' boat must be at just the wrong size re the new Conservancy fee - bands, to get clobbered so severely.

I think the 22' fee has gone up a lot proportionately ( I don't have a breakdown of last year's total ) but the change in tender fees has compensated for it in my case.

My comments about where my money goes still stand...

Andy - think you may be right

At 6.096 mtrs (:rolleyes:) last year I was in the "5.2 to 6.3" band at £34.60, this year I've been put in the "5m - 6m" band at £41.42 but next year I may well go to the "6.01m - 7m" band at 52.83 (this year and depends on how kind they are) - that's a 65% increase in two years.. I don't mind supporting the harbour, and push comes to shove it's less than £10 a month for the sailing summer, but it grates a little... :D

PS. Last year you were in the 6.31 - 7.4m so 48.90 (plus £5.20 for the tender), this year 6.01m - 7m is 52.83 (plus £6 etcetc)
 
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Visited Bosham Hoe last w/e and saw it was completely refurbished. New electrics, new ladders, South and West cardinals spanking new. Used to be under the provenance of Bosham Manor, now under Elf'nSafety. Obviously comes at a cost.
 
Is there any way a visiting boat crew can go ashore though ?

Mud around low Water

No actual visitor's buoys

Illegal ( via completely understandable byelaw ) to leave one's boat unattended on someone else's mooring.

I trundle into Bosham Channel a few times most seasons, pick up an obviously unused mooring ( and check the chain, there are some shockers there which wouldn't hold a watch on your wrist ! ) then stay aboard,

All very nice but it would also be nice to mount the odd raid on the Anchor Bleu; all the mod's mentioned are for the benefit of the generally well-heeled local berth holders - somewhere else that my dues have been put towards, as they sure don't get spent around my way...
 
Is there any way a visiting boat crew can go ashore though ?
Mud around low Water
No actual visitor's buoys

There's a long concrete slipway to the North of the Sailing Club, not sure it's accessible on the very bottom of a spring but I've not frequently seen the bottom.

I've never asked the Harbour master but I'm pretty sure you can park alongside the Quay as a visitor, I rarely see other people there so it's not like space is an issue. Let's be honest, once you've dried out you can mutter something about engine trouble - they're not going to kick you off.

As you will be aware, there are *always* spare mooring bouys even in summer, this time of year there are literally hundreds. (Yes, in summer it would be polite to watch from the pub with a handheld VHF just in case someone returned.)
 
There's a long concrete slipway to the North of the Sailing Club, not sure it's accessible on the very bottom of a spring but I've not frequently seen the bottom.

I've never asked the Harbour master but I'm pretty sure you can park alongside the Quay as a visitor, I rarely see other people there so it's not like space is an issue. Let's be honest, once you've dried out you can mutter something about engine trouble - they're not going to kick you off.

As you will be aware, there are *always* spare mooring bouys even in summer, this time of year there are literally hundreds. (Yes, in summer it would be polite to watch from the pub with a handheld VHF just in case someone returned.)

Bosham Quay and many of the moorings in the channel are not under the control of the Conservancy, they are operated by the company that owns the land..
http://www.bglcompany.co.uk/bosham_harbour
 
One of my favourite haunts last year :)

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Well I never knew that.... you learn something new every day! :encouragement:

Its a question of who owns the seabed. Much of the Harbour is Crown Estates and managed under Act of Parliament by CHC. An element of the mooring fees is ground rent to Crown Estates, and some of the increases we are discussing are down to them raising the fees. Bosham Channel and Quay used to belong to Bosham Manor. I dont know whether they sold it or own the Company who now run it.
 
I once got a deep water mooring in Bosham Channel ( Manor of Bosham ) via being told ' ask the bloke in the corner of the Anchor Bleu ' !

I am sorry to say the Mayor of Bosham Martin Beale was absolutley beastly to deal with - I am sure he was very ill then.

Fact is, lots of conservancy money for the well heeled ' in crowd ' owners of moorings there, sod all for people like me who have been harbour users - and payers - since childhood.

A lot ot of people are riding on the backs of me and my friends who regularly sail real boats, not base floating cottages.
 
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