Checked out by French Customs patrol

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Coming back from the Channel Isles yesterday we were approached from astern by a French customs boat 13nm north of Cap la Hague.

They asked a few basic questions over the radio .....number of persons on board, what nationality were we, where the vessel was registered, where was our last port of call and then they said that they would come and 'check us'.

We were asked to alter course ..... 90deg (East.) We presumed this was to maintain the patrol boat into the oncoming tide.

I however refused to do so explaining that being a sailing boat it was safest for me to motor steadily into the wind and this I did after furling the genoa.

A rib was launched from the back of their boat and 4 black clad official looking crew came powering towards us. They boarded very quickly using the port shrouds to haul themselves aboard and settled down in and around the cockpit.

Their leader explained that this was a routine check and they would like some identity from us. We had already produced our passports, mine British, Mrs. S' American.

They then asked for our boats documents and I proudly went for my 'ships documents' all nicely arranged in a folder with laminated registration certificate, insurance, radio licence, bill of sale, v.a.t. exempt papers etc. It seemed to help passify their interest in us as we had a second form of photo ID on our radio licence and a third on our driving licences.

All details of the registration document and our passports were copied down by one of the boarding party. They were particularly interested in noting down our ships radio call sign. Two others then asked if they could look below.

Mrs S' showed them through and they duly looked into the forepeak, the heads, a wardrobe, under the sole boards and generally surveying all around them. They failed to look into any saloon lockers, our large cockpit lockers and lazarette and a large box on the stern deck.... all places that could have hidden either booty or people.

Upon exiting the corridor from the forepeak their leader hit his head firmly against the bulkhead archway and I felt less irritated by this delay.

After we had been delayed for thirty minutes we were thanked..... I shook hands with the lead man and they departed as efficiently as they arrived, except a large wave came up between rib and our topsides and the lead man got a soaking. :)

We just made our entry to The Needles channel before the ebb and in past Hurst to eventually sit on the hook in Newtown Creek.

What gave them any reason to want to check us.... could it have been my wifes nationality?
No, more likely we later realised, that I had told then correctly over the radio that our boat was registered in Poole and on the back they could read it saying that it was registered in Southampton.

Checks like this are now quite a common occurrence so be reminded.... have your papers ready!
 
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I'm at a loss as to what they can do if you don't have your papers on board.

Well I suppose if you have little or no info' on board the worst they can do is escort you back to the nearest French port.

Ours was a relatively quick encounter, just 30 minutes in total. The more organised we were meant the quicker the check

could be made and the sooner they could have a sniff around and let us loose.

Simples... ;) even for a mobo :)
 
Talking to another Britt who regulalry comes across the channel, he said that local customs often visit and give one boat a thorough going over. Indeed this morning there were aboutmsix of them on a boat from Denmark.. Stayed for over three quarts of an hour..

In Spain, the marina is required to tell Customs whenever a foreigh boat arrives. Sure enough we were boarded at almost every port.... Until we finaly said our next port of call would not be in Spain. They ignored us after that... I thinknthey are looking to hit you with the 182 day rule if they can.
 
When you employ lots of people to do non jobs they need to fill their time in some way and justify their presence - so boarding xx number of boats a day is required. Don't look for a sensible reason or try to rationalise - that would give too much credit to them.
 
I'm at a loss as to what they can do if you don't have your papers on board.

If you were in French territorial waters they could fine you for not having papers. If you were in international waters they would probably not board you anyway. However, note the incident was possibly outside territorial waters.
 
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I'm at a loss as to what they can do if you don't have your papers on board.

As already mentioned they'll issue a fine. 240 euros I seem to recall for when we got boarded in the Channel du Four without proof of ownership a few years back.

And whilst territorial waters extend for 12 miles, don't waters of national interest generally extend up to 24?
 
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I had exactly the same treatment heading into Boulogne from Eastbourne. I think they get bored and want to play while proving they are doing something by generating paperwork.
 
In a marina in Spain I was once asked by Police for passport and ships papers. I presented my passport and told them the ships papers where in the marina office (which was closed for lunch). They seemed happy with that. Never been asked for passport or ships papers anywhere else (except marinas who round here like to keep the registration document for transitting boats to ensure you come back to pay before leaving).
 
exactly the same with us a few years back, just past the Raz du Sein. I had Swine Flu at the time, and I was laid low down below. They did not seem too worried about it... the Men in Black gave my young sons a bit of a fright when they boarded us...

Just a routine check, I suppose. To justify their salaries
 
If you were in French territorial waters they could fine you for not having papers. If you were in international waters they would probably not board you anyway. However, note the incident was possibly outside territorial waters.

If you were leaving French territorial waters they have a "right of pursuit" which doubles the distance from the coastal base line.

You can also be asked to justify your flag in international waters if they suspect you of one of (IIRC) 5 different motives which include smuggling, trafficking, piracy..... If the check proves incorrect you can sue for damages ie loss of income...!!

However what customs may not do without a warrant is to inspect sleeping quarters. But if they ask and you say ok well that's it.

What I suspect is that they are checking that a charter activity is not being carried out in French waters, for which local boats have onerous requirements to respect including possibly VAT liability.
 
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When you employ lots of people to do non jobs they need to fill their time in some way and justify their presence - so boarding xx number of boats a day is required. Don't look for a sensible reason or try to rationalise - that would give too much credit to them.

I get checked almost annually. I have never yet met a team which I would consider hostile. They have been almost invariably very polite; where they might not be is if they have to do their job with some smart*** making it difficult for them.
 
Seems a bit off, if you have not been to France for then to want to board you. I wonder at their reaction if you were to refuse or hd cocked a deaf-en and not had your radio switched on.
 
Seems a bit off, if you have not been to France for then to want to board you. I wonder at their reaction if you were to refuse or hd cocked a deaf-en and not had your radio switched on.

Could hardly ignore them, they came within 2 lengths of me off my quarter holding a whacking great sign from their bridge saying 'Channel 08' after I was less than cooperative in steering their way whilst discussing things on CH16
 
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