Channel4 9pm Monday 13th

Its the bloody weather !Had to delay setting off for 2 days now due to gales,anyway off tomorrow on the evening tide for a night out in sunny Kikcudbright.. providing I dont hit any wind turbines in the dark at Robin Rigg !
 
Clarky said:
Maybe you should watch it for a third time because I saw the wife doing the polishing and heard her complaining about it because it was immediately on arrival.
I think money has quite a lot to do with it,the Cat would be worth £200-£300 thousand presumably,pretty self limiting.Own business, so no worries about a job to go back to,I think your comments are very naive,clearly those are the primary reasons many people dont do it.
I do plenty of adventurous activity,sailing and climbing, here and abroad,but I still think the reason most people dont head off to the wide blue yonder is a financial one.The reason I dont climb or sail full time is financial ,I need a job,at least part time,clearly your hero doesnt.
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The one thing I noticed was, for a "property developer" with a big yot, he lived in an extremely modest terraced 2-up, 2-down in Cowes. If I sold our family home and moved us all into such a small place I could buy a boat like theirs and still have a bit left over to fund the trip. (Not sure I'd still have a wife though! ;))

I'd imagine there's a fair few people who were in the right properties over the past 20 years or so who would be in a similar position.

Just because he is a self employed property developer it doesn't necessarily make him a millionaire! I know one or two who go under that job title who don't have a pot to p*ss in!!
 
I'd have presumed a property developer would have had a pretty lean time of it in the past couple of years. They work on borrowed capital and the end goal is to sell the developments.
Both a bit subdued ideals at the moment.
 
Me too, re Kirkcudbight.

But stuck in watching the sea out the window, thinking about housework, drinking cider, eating curry.

Kirkcubright will have to wait till May.

Anything else good on the tele' I can watch?
 
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I think the way the guy spoke to his wife on a number of occasions was bang out of order and the way he spoke to the line handlers.
But the producers and editors decide what and how it is going to be presented and that looks to me what has happened here.
I was filmed on a large job i was running in the oil industry the camera crew arrived put a mike on me pretty much all the time and a camera followed me everywhere my men had head cams fitted to their helmets. they got in excess of 60hrs of footage on the main camera and hundreds of hours on the head cams, all within a couple of weeks. The job was very high pressure and had never been done before within the oil industry. They had to get the footage down to about 16 mins for the final programme!!
We all signed forms basically giving them the right to do whatever they want with the material. They take what is a normal operation and massively dramatise it with voice over’s and sound effects
Because they kept missing what they called "good stuff" they wanted us to act out conversations... it was a real eye opener for me. I now watch programmes like deep sea trawlers, that lobster boat one and rigs trawlers rescue with a huge pinch of salt. If the footage doesn’t give them what they want they will create it, I’ll never entertain them again unless I sit in on the editing...:D

My nephew is studying to be a cameraman, and for his final exam he had to make a short documentary, he asked if he could use us and the topic was liveaboards, I was very sceptical but went ahead, he spent about 3 days with us got loads of material which he had to edit down to 10 mins, on day two we were both very ill with a bug which shows, but i think he did a very good job. We went ahead with this because he was family.

Here’s the link:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gaWt3aIGkw
 
davidjackson said:
One of the best things I've seen on the box for a very long time.

The makers did a great job of showing how he matured during the voyage.

Best shots for me personally was their arrival and seeing the Opera House and Harbour Bridge appear. Truly magical and beats the remote beach scenes, IMHO.

Best quote, undoubtedly, was "put that ....ing camera down" captain to first mate as she was filming him struggling at the top of the mast.

Starting role: first mate. She was wonderful. Any more like her?

Scary bit. I'm never again going to eat fish unless it's battered and comes in old news paper from Greasy Joe's down the road.

10 out of 10.

Many thanks. More, please.
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They were bloo dy lucky to get away with just a bit of food poisoning, had a look on their blog, they had a heck of a bill in Spain!
Stu
 
emsworthy said:
The one thing I noticed was, for a "property developer" with a big yot, he lived in an extremely modest terraced 2-up, 2-down in Cowes. If I sold our family home and moved us all into such a small place I could buy a boat like theirs and still have a bit left over to fund the trip. (Not sure I'd still have a wife though! ;))

I'd imagine there's a fair few people who were in the right properties over the past 20 years or so who would be in a similar position.

Just because he is a self employed property developer it doesn't necessarily make him a millionaire! I know one or two who go under that job title who don't have a pot to p*ss in!!
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Yes exactly so. The term 'property developer' conjures up ideas of someone who builds shopping malls etc, however the one and only 'property developer' I know buys old neglected houses, DIY and contract manage restores them and sells before moving to his next project. He is currently struggling big time.

The blog makes it clear that the boat was not new and when first viewed the engines were stored 100 miles away from the boat. Having got the boat in sail away condition they took it to Chesapeake area for a significant re-fit, all of which suggests to me it was not a money no object purchase, more like a bit of a project boat. Clarky's figure of £200-300,000 is way OTT, especially in the USA, I know because we are in the market for a boat over there in Chesapeake ourselves. BTW we are not millionaires either, nor even property developers (wreckers more like) but are selling what we have to buy over there and live aboard, a question of lifestyle choice rather than additional activity. I wonder if Channel 4 would pay me for a film?
 
Aye good wee film.
I have some good days out on An Teallach ,and was heading there last week but was struck down by a bug myself.

Cheers,

Clarky
 
Re "My nephew is studying to be a cameraman"

Thanks for the link, v watchable.

I'm afraid I have my usual moan about cameramen. I can understand that it is a technical job, But It should also be artistic, every shot should be a visual creation, The French film makers managed to do it in the 60's. What else are cameramen doing other than creating visual art?
 
When we did our bit for the BBC news they must have filmed about 4 hours worth for 2 minutes showing. Mind you the best bit was what I filmed sitting on the pulpit, I think H&S stopped them from doing it :D
 
Croak said:
Re "My nephew is studying to be a cameraman"

Thanks for the link, v watchable.

I'm afraid I have my usual moan about cameramen. I can understand that it is a technical job, But It should also be artistic, every shot should be a visual creation, The French film makers managed to do it in the 60's. What else are cameramen doing other than creating visual art?
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Trying to earn a living?! The budget for docs has plummeted, plus every tv company wants multitaskers. If you look at the credits for the show, it was directed, shot and produced by one person. When I first started out 12 years ago, even a simple news shoot would be crewed with 4 or more people (camera, sound, interviewer, director) and larger shoots would add in a spark and runner. Nowadays, most of the stuff I shoot is 2 person crew and needs turnign around faster.

Digital has been great in many ways, but it has put the squeeze on creativity. Companies realise they can put a student in the back of a cop car for a day, get them to rough cut the first edit and they've got 15 mins of tv for £1.50...

Unfortunately, you're not going to get "every shot" being an artistic creation. There were some nice shots on the C4 film - the cameraman knew what he was doing. My biggest moan is that it was too much to compress into the available slot - but there again I was hoping for more sailing insights whereas the film was clearly more about the 'personal journey'.

Cheers, Phil (jobbing cameraman!)
 
Clarky said:
Its pity thats the case,I often get the impression that much is lost using families such as these who dont really represent "normal people." I would put money on the fact he knew somebody in the business and hence the idea to film .Its a pity some researcher couldnt have found a more normal family trying to balance finances etc.
By the way your short films are good.
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I presume he answered the advert production companies put in newspapers and magazines when they are looking for certain types of people.

I remember see this advert about three years ago, probably in the Telegraph and it resulted in a TV series on families who have taken a gap year.

Go to this page and you can read an interview with him and even sign up for the next series.
 
LordMacDonald said:
My nephew is studying to be a cameraman, and for his final exam he had to make a short documentary, he asked if he could use us and the topic was liveaboards, I was very sceptical but went ahead, he spent about 3 days with us got loads of material which he had to edit down to 10 mins, on day two we were both very ill with a bug which shows, but i think he did a very good job. We went ahead with this because he was family.

Here’s the link:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gaWt3aIGkw
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Thanks, I enjoyed that film, but I am not sure you wanted the entire world to know you buy the Daily Mail. :D
 
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