Peppermint
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Channel 16 was really quite interesting for the whole weekend. The professionals seem to have most of the bad habits we are used to. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Channel 16. A first.
- Thread starter Peppermint
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Solent CG, solent CG, solent CG this is HMS Ark Royal, radio check pls
do tell!
do tell!
tome
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Re: Solent CG, solent CG, solent CG this is HMS Ark Royal, radio check pls
The normally v professional ch 11 sounded a bit chaotic too- spithead control totally overwhelmed.
For anyone with a DSC set make sure everyone on board briefed how to cancel banshee alarm - solent CG putting out wall to wall alerts.
The normally v professional ch 11 sounded a bit chaotic too- spithead control totally overwhelmed.
For anyone with a DSC set make sure everyone on board briefed how to cancel banshee alarm - solent CG putting out wall to wall alerts.
snooks
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I do enjoy it when QHM start telling off radio operators in big grey ships...tee hee
woody001
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tom, whats a banshee alarm?
thanks mate
simon
thanks mate
simon
Peppermint
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
Every kind of improper radio practice except the radio check.
Most notable being ship to ship conversations on 16 on the lines of "I'm trying to contact *****. Do you know were they are? " "No I don't know try so and so". Overs, outs and rogers sprinkled all over the place.
An American tall ship that seemed loath to change course for anything. What they did was get a young lady to negotiate by vhf, with anything that might obstruct their course. She sounded jolly nice.
A bit more worrying was the helo pilot who was intercepting shipping, all over the Channel, and asking them questions that would worry me if I was a fan of AIS. What was really worrying was though he was un a British navy copter he sounded like George Bush's brighter cousin.
The repeated request by navy operators for ships to chop to another channel caused much amusement too. It's is likely that the Brittany Ferries skippers were just being playful by refusing to understand what chop meant. I think the Finish and Spanish blokes were really puzzled.
Solent CG hardly cover themselves in glory by repeatedly refusing to give radio checks on 16. Except when they gave radio checks on 16. I'd think a bit of consistancy might get a better response.
Every kind of improper radio practice except the radio check.
Most notable being ship to ship conversations on 16 on the lines of "I'm trying to contact *****. Do you know were they are? " "No I don't know try so and so". Overs, outs and rogers sprinkled all over the place.
An American tall ship that seemed loath to change course for anything. What they did was get a young lady to negotiate by vhf, with anything that might obstruct their course. She sounded jolly nice.
A bit more worrying was the helo pilot who was intercepting shipping, all over the Channel, and asking them questions that would worry me if I was a fan of AIS. What was really worrying was though he was un a British navy copter he sounded like George Bush's brighter cousin.
The repeated request by navy operators for ships to chop to another channel caused much amusement too. It's is likely that the Brittany Ferries skippers were just being playful by refusing to understand what chop meant. I think the Finish and Spanish blokes were really puzzled.
Solent CG hardly cover themselves in glory by repeatedly refusing to give radio checks on 16. Except when they gave radio checks on 16. I'd think a bit of consistancy might get a better response.
tome
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
L'Andrew do like the word 'chop' don't they? Why can't they speak English, it must confuse the hell out of our visitors.
Don't know what Eagle was up to, but sounded as if they couldn't deviate from course as though a given right.
L'Andrew do like the word 'chop' don't they? Why can't they speak English, it must confuse the hell out of our visitors.
Don't know what Eagle was up to, but sounded as if they couldn't deviate from course as though a given right.
woody001
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
even more confused, whats a banshee alarm!?
even more confused, whats a banshee alarm!?
tome
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
If you have a DSC set you'll hear the most nerve-jangling full volume alert go off each time, which doesn't stop until someone cancels it. Good for the heart.
If you have a DSC set you'll hear the most nerve-jangling full volume alert go off each time, which doesn't stop until someone cancels it. Good for the heart.
jimi
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
I wanted to do "Starship Enterprise,Starship Enterprise,Starship Enterprise this is Scotty,Scotty,Scotty Beam me up"
I wanted to do "Starship Enterprise,Starship Enterprise,Starship Enterprise this is Scotty,Scotty,Scotty Beam me up"
tome
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
Hee hee- should have done. If I can escape tomorrow I might just have a bit of fun from deep within anchorage.
Hee hee- should have done. If I can escape tomorrow I might just have a bit of fun from deep within anchorage.
woody001
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
i know the one, i usually end up hitting every button and not being able to find the alert details......
I am really missing out as i can't make t200! booooooooooooooo
i know the one, i usually end up hitting every button and not being able to find the alert details......
I am really missing out as i can't make t200! booooooooooooooo
IanR
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
So who can spot the advantage of DSC?
Illustrious, Illustrious this is Leander......
Surely with all of our tax pounds the boys can use an MMSI number?
If not why should anyone use DSC
Vessel calling Russian ship ......
So who can spot the advantage of DSC?
Illustrious, Illustrious this is Leander......
Surely with all of our tax pounds the boys can use an MMSI number?
If not why should anyone use DSC
Vessel calling Russian ship ......
TigaWave
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
There is a Captin Kirk out there somewhere....we over heard him on the vhf and just had to reply "is that Enteprise" tee hee...
There is a Captin Kirk out there somewhere....we over heard him on the vhf and just had to reply "is that Enteprise" tee hee...
john_morris_uk
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
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Surely with all of our tax pounds the boys can use an MMSI number?
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To supplement the patrols, the RN pulled in every available cox'n from all over the country. A lot of the radios used are handheld and without DSC. If you take a young man or women out of their normal routine and give them a fast boat and a blue flashing light - well my understanding is that most of them coped very well with what was a highly stressful day security wise.
After all, there were two conflicting requirements. One was to allow the public to see the entire proceedings as clearly as possible. The other was to not allow some suicide boat to make world-wide headlines.
If you know of people being rude and aggressive without due cause, please report them - in an event which is supposed to be bringing favourable PR to the service, sometimes people need re-educating, but I hope that those who watched will have some sympathy for those of us who had a long working day.
I suppose given the scale of the event, some things are bound to be not as perfect as one would hope.
Remember for the guys driving the big ships round, it was a successful day.
They didn't hit anything, they didn't go aground, and no-one was injured.
Before you think I am being facile, you try driving several thousand tonnes round the course that was required through the massed fleet of ships!!
And the entire massed beer buying of the forum won't persuade me to repeat some of the things I saw or heard!!
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Surely with all of our tax pounds the boys can use an MMSI number?
[/ QUOTE ]
To supplement the patrols, the RN pulled in every available cox'n from all over the country. A lot of the radios used are handheld and without DSC. If you take a young man or women out of their normal routine and give them a fast boat and a blue flashing light - well my understanding is that most of them coped very well with what was a highly stressful day security wise.
After all, there were two conflicting requirements. One was to allow the public to see the entire proceedings as clearly as possible. The other was to not allow some suicide boat to make world-wide headlines.
If you know of people being rude and aggressive without due cause, please report them - in an event which is supposed to be bringing favourable PR to the service, sometimes people need re-educating, but I hope that those who watched will have some sympathy for those of us who had a long working day.
I suppose given the scale of the event, some things are bound to be not as perfect as one would hope.
Remember for the guys driving the big ships round, it was a successful day.
They didn't hit anything, they didn't go aground, and no-one was injured.
Before you think I am being facile, you try driving several thousand tonnes round the course that was required through the massed fleet of ships!!
And the entire massed beer buying of the forum won't persuade me to repeat some of the things I saw or heard!!
Gunfleet
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Nice to know we\'re all up to speed with DSC, then
You'd wonder why anyone should use dsc anyway. I phoned (landline) my local coastguard recently with the perfectly reasonable request 'if I'm putting your mmsi number in my vhf, what channel should I tell it to go to once the call is established'
What do you mean says coastguard. I repeat the question but add, 'you know, what channel would you prefer it to go to.'
Ch 16, says coastguard.
Are you sure says I, I've already called you on a calling channel and this is a non urgent call.
Oh, says coastguard. No, says coastguard
a muttered conflab at the other end.
67 says coastguard
Are you sure, says I.
Er, well 67 should be all right.
You'd wonder why anyone should use dsc anyway. I phoned (landline) my local coastguard recently with the perfectly reasonable request 'if I'm putting your mmsi number in my vhf, what channel should I tell it to go to once the call is established'
What do you mean says coastguard. I repeat the question but add, 'you know, what channel would you prefer it to go to.'
Ch 16, says coastguard.
Are you sure says I, I've already called you on a calling channel and this is a non urgent call.
Oh, says coastguard. No, says coastguard
a muttered conflab at the other end.
67 says coastguard
Are you sure, says I.
Er, well 67 should be all right.
ShipsWoofy
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Re: Nice to know we\'re all up to speed with DSC, then
You cannot switch a shore station as far as I remember. You can call the CG on MMSI but they will still control the communications, will have to refer back to my little book to confirm.
I have the CG's MMSI numbers in memory, Liverpool, Holyhead and Milford Haven as if they send a sécurité or mayday relay the set will tell me immediately where the alarm is originating from.
You cannot switch a shore station as far as I remember. You can call the CG on MMSI but they will still control the communications, will have to refer back to my little book to confirm.
I have the CG's MMSI numbers in memory, Liverpool, Holyhead and Milford Haven as if they send a sécurité or mayday relay the set will tell me immediately where the alarm is originating from.
Listening to the VHF was one of the highlights of the whole event for me. My favourites were:
1) QHM offering to pass on another ship's comment to the Queen, this was just after the reopening of Portsmouth following the exit of Endurance.
2) A harassed Solent Coastguard lady telling the RN to shut up with a mayday seelonce on Monday while she tracked a small craft with a cabin full of smoke near Hillhead. The big grey boats sulked for about 15 minutes but it seemed the coastguard forgot to seelonce feenee.
Hope the "chop nn" convention spreads to yachty traffic, it rolls off the tongue much better.
1) QHM offering to pass on another ship's comment to the Queen, this was just after the reopening of Portsmouth following the exit of Endurance.
2) A harassed Solent Coastguard lady telling the RN to shut up with a mayday seelonce on Monday while she tracked a small craft with a cabin full of smoke near Hillhead. The big grey boats sulked for about 15 minutes but it seemed the coastguard forgot to seelonce feenee.
Hope the "chop nn" convention spreads to yachty traffic, it rolls off the tongue much better.
Re: Gabble Gabble.
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A lot of the radios used are handheld and without DSC.
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Now I understand... during Monday and Tuesday I was left a little puzzled as to why the RN used nothing better than old Icom sets for intership communications.
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A lot of the radios used are handheld and without DSC.
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Now I understand... during Monday and Tuesday I was left a little puzzled as to why the RN used nothing better than old Icom sets for intership communications.
john_morris_uk
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Re: Gabble Gabble.
Remember it wasn't just the RN present!
I was not party to the choice of channels or circuits for communication and was only on the bridge to say hello to the bridge team and navigator before we sailed. However bearing in mind the need to communicate with everyone on the water, I assume the decision was made to use Marine VHF as secure circuits would have been no help to half the people there!
Remember it wasn't just the RN present!
I was not party to the choice of channels or circuits for communication and was only on the bridge to say hello to the bridge team and navigator before we sailed. However bearing in mind the need to communicate with everyone on the water, I assume the decision was made to use Marine VHF as secure circuits would have been no help to half the people there!