ProDave
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Me too.
Then see how far up the Dornoch firth you can get, You should get to Bonar Bridge on the tide.
Centaur prices
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Me too.
Then see how far up the Dornoch firth you can get, You should get to Bonar Bridge on the tide.
Fascadale
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Have you been up to Stirling yet Dylan? And then there is the Tay up to Perth.
mrming
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I've been using eBay for 13 years and have never experienced this. I've sold plenty of high value items such as cars. The bidding on the centaur more likely reflects what people are willing to pay for one. £4k for a 1970s boat.
dylanwinter
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£2000 - but less for a bad boat
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/yachts/westerly-centaur-project-boat-wanted-PAA85363
as for all the great Scottish East Coast places to explore in Katie L....
My plan is to get the Centaur organised
park Katie L on the East coast at the back of a yard some-where - mast down - tarped up
then sail over the top this summer
at the moment I am planning to spend feb on the Forth and Tay in Katie L
then spend April on Katie L making full use of her thin water abilities.
Park her somewhere quiet at the end of April at the back of a yard - mast down - cover over the top
then pick up up the Centaur - do some Solent sea trials using five different Honda engines
2.3, 5, 10,15 and 20
then take her around to the Medway to the Hundred of Hoo and then with three fit blokes sail her straight up the North sea to the Moray in mid May
Once I have finished my summer with the family (and dog) on the Centaur and got her around to the West Coast - I shall either sell her to the Irish sailor who has offered to buy her on the assumption that if she makes the trip she is worth having
- or give her to my son
depending upon my rocky freelances cash flow
I shall then return to Katie L 2015 and go through the lower canal route or take the Caledonian over to the West Coast
of course these are just plans - and reality often has a habit [sometimes nice - sometimes nasty) of coming in with its own unexpected directions.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/yachts/westerly-centaur-project-boat-wanted-PAA85363
as for all the great Scottish East Coast places to explore in Katie L....
My plan is to get the Centaur organised
park Katie L on the East coast at the back of a yard some-where - mast down - tarped up
then sail over the top this summer
at the moment I am planning to spend feb on the Forth and Tay in Katie L
then spend April on Katie L making full use of her thin water abilities.
Park her somewhere quiet at the end of April at the back of a yard - mast down - cover over the top
then pick up up the Centaur - do some Solent sea trials using five different Honda engines
2.3, 5, 10,15 and 20
then take her around to the Medway to the Hundred of Hoo and then with three fit blokes sail her straight up the North sea to the Moray in mid May
Once I have finished my summer with the family (and dog) on the Centaur and got her around to the West Coast - I shall either sell her to the Irish sailor who has offered to buy her on the assumption that if she makes the trip she is worth having
- or give her to my son
depending upon my rocky freelances cash flow
I shall then return to Katie L 2015 and go through the lower canal route or take the Caledonian over to the West Coast
of course these are just plans - and reality often has a habit [sometimes nice - sometimes nasty) of coming in with its own unexpected directions.
mainsail1
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Can we see a picky of the boat you have found? Or have I missed a thread somewhere?
dylanwinter
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no boat yet.....
just plans....
just about enough money...
an offer of an engine loan for a summer
a potential buyer on the other side..
offers of help from a bloke to assiist with removing the old lump
an offer of help from Wessex Resins
a few pages in PBO which will help with the finances
I have until the end of March to find the boat if push comes to shove I could do the conversion and of April beginning of May
it should only take three days
one thing about Centaurs
they are like buses - miss one and another will be along soon
there are about 30 on the market at the moment
most are too good for me
D
pvb
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There's one in Wales with a broken engine for £3K, bet they'd sell for less - http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/advert/westerly-centaur-pembrokeshire/39772072
And one in Norfolk with a working engine you could sell, priced at £3.5K but again I bet they'd sell for less - http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/advert/westerly-centaur-wroxham/41267754
And one in Norfolk with a working engine you could sell, priced at £3.5K but again I bet they'd sell for less - http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/advert/westerly-centaur-wroxham/41267754
dylanwinter
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I have been watching both of those for a while
I am still hoping for one in the East or south (solent ideal) - because that is where PBO, engine people and Wessex Resins man is
the one in Wales has no roller reefing - not a deal breaker by any means but for me a rolling genoa is an essential
the Broads one is a fairly firm price I understand
time will tell
I am hoping that word of mouth will turn one up
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WestWittering
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Have you asked Chi Marina about Sally Forth yet? Can't remember if it has roller reefing or not, but the boat can only be worth £1,000 - £1,500. For some reason, he is paying £2,500k per year marina fees, the boat hasn't been out for years, just sitting there... I feel so sorry for her as someone really loved her once - she was even fitted with radar...
Di
Di
dylanwinter
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thanks Di,
I really like the name - very apt given the place the journey has got to
I have emailed Chi in a general way but I have just sent an email mentioning that boat
does anyone on here know who owns her?
would anyone be prepared to stick a note on the hatch fao the owner?
how power hungry is radar?
never felt the need of it as filming in the fog is a bit of a waste of time
maybe I could ebay it
D
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chrisbitz
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WestWittering
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There is no point writing a note, he never visits the boat. Well, he did once (I wasn't there) and the conversation with the PP went something along the lines of SF "Well, what do you reckon?" PP "No thanks!!!"
Don't worry about the radar - give it to the museum at Dournanez - they are missing one like that from the collection
Ask the Marina to pass your phone number & a message to the owner of Sally Forth & they will.
Di
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Dylan,
I'd say it depends what sort of radar it is !
I run one on my A22 with an outboard ( 5hp, the one you end up with may have more charging ) & 30 watt solar panel; the idea is to use it in bursts to see what's around, I could never trundle along with it churning all the time like a fishing boat.
However, that's a relatively modern JRC job with a low power consumption standby mode and a digital low power screen; if the thing on Sally Forth has a cathode ray display it's probably a job for File 13 as Di suggests.
I'd say it depends what sort of radar it is !
I run one on my A22 with an outboard ( 5hp, the one you end up with may have more charging ) & 30 watt solar panel; the idea is to use it in bursts to see what's around, I could never trundle along with it churning all the time like a fishing boat.
However, that's a relatively modern JRC job with a low power consumption standby mode and a digital low power screen; if the thing on Sally Forth has a cathode ray display it's probably a job for File 13 as Di suggests.
LittleSister
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Even if it really did only take three days (and I'd be surprised if it did) you will then need to start on the list of other jobs/repairs/fitting out that come with any old boat, most of which you won't know until you have it. It seems to me that you risk spending the summer (or a valuable part of it) sorting out a boat, rather than sailing.
Don't get me wrong, I wish you well with it if you go ahead. But I'm concerned that you're getting carried away with an 'interesting idea' that might well actually get in the way of the progress of your bigger (and very wonderful) project. (And still not clear why you don't want to continue 'over the top' in Katie L.)
Skylark
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Dylan, IIRC, there's one about to go to auction from Port Dinorwic, North Wales. The new owners of the marina have pulled a few hulks out of the water in the general endeavour to clean the place up. There's about 6 very unloved boats with such Notices now attached. There are a few PD berth holders on the forum. No doubt they'll give more accurate info, if required.
Good luck with your search. Happy New Year, too!
JumbleDuck
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He wants to do the wild bits with three other adult family members on board. Katie L is a lovely boat, and I am sure she'd be up to the trip, but four adults in a boat that size for a month is not a sensible proposition.
clyst
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Four adults on a Centaur for a month is challenging too. Especially one in the dog category . IE leaky windows ,drooping headlining and a host of other annoying little problems that Dylan won't have time to sort out .
Dont want to p--s on Dylan's parade but having some experience of the Thurso / Scrabster area I would want something a bit bigger than a small centaur to do the trip . Trust me tides and seas on this coast take no prisoners.
mainsail1
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Dylan, Would sponsorship make life easier or are you against such things?
prv
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I know all about that, having spent three solid winters bringing our previous "in good condition and ready to sail away" boat up to my standards, and looking set fair to do the same again. However, if you're only planning to use a boat as a tool for a specific job and then dispose of it, you can ignore the vast majority of that work.
The vital first-tier requirements for a boat are:
Keep the water on the outside
The crew on the inside
The keel(s) pointing down,
And the mast pointing up.
I usually put a working rudder in at a kind of one-and-a-half level, but if Dylan can steer with his engine then even that is not critical so he can take the risk of something a little less than 100% bomb-proof. Running rigging is rarely so utterly destroyed that something can't be lashed up, especially if you have a garage full of bits of boat. If it were necessary, for example, I might be prepared to give him a large old mainsail that could be cut down a bit, in exchange for an outing on the Welly Boat. And of course he will have a new or nearly-new engine, so that's propulsion sorted, and whole classes of mechanical and electrical work usually necessary on old boats becomes irrelevant.
Add a load of portable gear he's already got - Katy L's entire galley if needed, handheld GPS and VHF, airbeds etc if the upholstery is knackered or disappeared. Even Katy L's nav lights were portable clip-ons that could be used if the existing ones don't work, though personally I wonder if they're really bright enough. Probably no need to touch the existing electrics, if any, at all. Everything is portable, just tape and cable-tie stuff out of the way if required.
Hardly any plumbing needed - I think both previous KTL boats used jerrycans for freshwater. Skin fittings won't be dissolving brass on an old Westerly, though they might be backed by gate valves jammed either open or closed. If the former, no problem just make sure you have a bung handy, if the latter, just ignore it. If that applies to the sink drain, for instance, seal it up and get a washing-up bowl you can empty overboard. I would say bucket-and-chuckit heads as well, but I believe Mrs Dylan draws the line at that. Absolute worst case, a new Jabsco is £99 and half a day to fit (I know cos I did exactly that last spring). Probably less time if you don't hide the hoses neatly, which, I hope is becoming clear, is not something I'd consider at all important on this boat.
Leaking windows? Give it a quick go with the Captain Tolleys and the bath mastic, then live with what remains. Keep your stuff in waterproof bags. If water's leaking into the structure of the boat, who cares, it's not going to fall apart in a summer.
Basically, all Dylan needs is a hull and a few more-or-less working saily-bits on top of it. Practically nothing that comes on the inside is strictly necessary for his plans.
Pete
TSB240
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No Centaurs on the PD disposal sale
No centaurs on the old wrecks compound David! What ever is available will be put on ebay at end of February.
Steve.
No centaurs on the old wrecks compound David! What ever is available will be put on ebay at end of February.
Steve.