Tranona
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Not on any list I can find - and pretty sure it is not.
Happy to be corrected if you have an authoritative source that shows it is.
CE Mark!
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Happy to be corrected if you have an authoritative source that shows it is.
rjcoles
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The BVI's and many other countrys are part of the EAA . The following list was taken from CE Proof website.
EEA Overseas Countries and Territories
Anguilla
Aruba
Azores
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Canary Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
French Overseas Departments
French Polynesia
French Southern & Antarctic Territories
Greenland
Madeira
Mayotte
Montserrat
Netherlands Antilles
o Bonaire
o Curacao
o Saba
o Sint Eustatius
o Sint Maarten
New Caledonia and Dependencies
Pitcairn
Saint Helena and Dependencies
Saint Pierre and Miquelon
South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands
Turks and Caicos Islands
Wallis and Futuna Islands
Common Mistakes
Switzerland is a member of EFTA but is not a member of the EEA.
The Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Gibraltar are not within the EEA.
The following states are EU applicants and may become EU members in the future:
Croatia
Turkey
Macedonia
For more information on membership status including the dates of joining, visit the EU Commission's website.
EEA Overseas Countries and Territories
Anguilla
Aruba
Azores
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Canary Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
French Overseas Departments
French Polynesia
French Southern & Antarctic Territories
Greenland
Madeira
Mayotte
Montserrat
Netherlands Antilles
o Bonaire
o Curacao
o Saba
o Sint Eustatius
o Sint Maarten
New Caledonia and Dependencies
Pitcairn
Saint Helena and Dependencies
Saint Pierre and Miquelon
South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands
Turks and Caicos Islands
Wallis and Futuna Islands
Common Mistakes
Switzerland is a member of EFTA but is not a member of the EEA.
The Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Gibraltar are not within the EEA.
The following states are EU applicants and may become EU members in the future:
Croatia
Turkey
Macedonia
For more information on membership status including the dates of joining, visit the EU Commission's website.
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Again you have proved that some folk on these forums do not know what they are talking about and type and type without any wit of knowing what they are talking about. If they read a bit more, specifically the RYA site regarding CE Marks and especially Appendix 2, they will realise that the CE marks will not apply. As I said in my original post other regulations might apply (VHF Radio specifically):
http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/technical/Web Documents/Appendix 2 Exclusion (3).pdf
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Tranona
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Apologies. Thank you. Should have looked a bit further.
BTW for the OP the qualifying date seems to be 1998, not 1995 if he wants to pursue this route.
Bilgediver
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OP question.
Need some help. I am living on my boat in the BVI. She is a BVI registered boat built in the US in 1983. Until recently she was registered in the US. I need to head back to the UK for a year maybe two. A little to long to leave her on the hard with no TLC, So have to sail her back ,Great. No.I have found out about something called a CE mark. I am not intending on selling her while there just live and leave.
Unusual for you to not read the question
Not only was the OP from the BVI but he was coming as a visitor so Maybe No CE and also no VAT unless he exceeds the time limit here though some of our Kissin Cousins have found ways around that one just like some of us found ways around a similar limit in Norway.
Does a trip to Guernsey count as leaving the EEA for restarting the clock????
jimbaerselman
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Channel Islands take part in the EU free movement of goods - are part of the EU customs union in fact, but are not in the EU. They are also outside the EU VAT zone - 'cos they don't have VAT. But HMRC insists on Q flags and C1331 returns from vessels returning to UK from the CI. Which doesn't sound like free movement of goods to me! The French don't ask for Q flags and clearance from CI traffic.
That doesn't answer your question about whether they are in the EEA, but it does show that HMRC have a pretty ambiguous view of their situation!
So the question is, do you have to leave the EU, or do you have to leave the Customs Union, in order to reset the TI 18 months clock. Nice one. Best ask HMRC . . .
That doesn't answer your question about whether they are in the EEA, but it does show that HMRC have a pretty ambiguous view of their situation!
So the question is, do you have to leave the EU, or do you have to leave the Customs Union, in order to reset the TI 18 months clock. Nice one. Best ask HMRC . . .
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Tranona
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OP question.
Need some help. I am living on my boat in the BVI. She is a BVI registered boat built in the US in 1983. Until recently she was registered in the US. I need to head back to the UK for a year maybe two. A little to long to leave her on the hard with no TLC, So have to sail her back ,Great. No.I have found out about something called a CE mark. I am not intending on selling her while there just live and leave.
Unusual for you to not read the question
Just to knock this on the head. He can only come as a visitor if he is non EU resident and he can apply for temporary importation. If he is still officially resident in the UK (which seems to be the case) he cannot be a visitor. The boat is OK for temporary importation because it is not registered in the EU, but the person owning the boat and applying must be a non EU resident.
HOWEVER, despite me making a mistake about the status of BVI in relation to the EEA, the boat was built in the US so whether it is exempt will depend entirely on being able to provide evidence that it was in BVI waters prior to 1998.
So, the possibility that it will be exempt is there. He will also have to deal with the VAT issue.
If he is really non resident then all these problems go away as he can be a visitor or taking up residency, so either of the two options are possibilities. However, in his original post he says he just intends staying a year or two and then leaving.
So, he needs to clarify what his personal status is and pursue a strategy based on that.
KellysEye
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Like the OP the previous owner of our boat bought a foreign boat in this case in Holland. The boat was built in 1970 and imported in 1991. He paid the balance of VAT, the UK VAT was then was higher than Holland's, but there was no requirement for a CE mark.
Tranona
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No reason why it should as your boat was built in the EEA and all that occurred before the RCD and CE marking was even thought of. The Ops boat was built in the US, so will need a CE mark if it is imported into the EU unless it qualifies for exemption. The main possibility - and it is only a possibility is if there is documentary evidence that it was in the EEA before June 1998. On the information provided so far (despite being currently in BVI) this seems unlikely as until recently it was registered in the USA, so presumably owned by a US citizen. So the chances of it being based in one of the EEA countries are small and probably no acceptable documentation going back over 15 years.
You need to look at each individual case, both the boat and the person intending bringing it into the EU to determine which rules apply and what potential exemptions might be available.