caught speeding, what happens next

Thanks Solitaire, /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And thanks for the link, I remember visiting the site when I first got the boat, (before entering the port) since then I have been doing what most other boats are doing. Possibly not the best method.


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Maybe you can share with us what to do when caught by the traffic police ? I'd like to know that one and if you get a fine ask the guy who wrote the book to pay it.........

Hope you get off anyway. I think most of us have been guilty of speeding at some stage.
 
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I was doing it from memory - but as the chartlet shows you are right.
 
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Maybe you can share with us what to do when caught by the traffic police ? I'd like to know that one and if you get a fine ask the guy who wrote the book to pay it.........

Hope you get off anyway. I think most of us have been guilty of speeding at some stage.

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Just so we make it clear - not me who got caught! I think you'll find it was the OP.
 
I've no legal training whatsoever but I've read a couple of Rumpole books so if you want representation in court please just PM me.

Don't worry if I start off by antagonising the judge and you see him muttering things like I'll put this bsaratd away for life. Rumpole always does it and he still gets his client off.

I've already prepared the perfect defence.

My client was afeard of his life and was attempting to escape from a group of extremists called raggies. These raggies are often to be seen shaking their fists at my client for his use of fossil fuels and his excessive washing (although how they can call a shower once per month excessive is beyond me).

The also follow an arcane set of rules known as the colour regulations. These rules dictate for example that you can only have red sails with a gaff boom (whatever that may be). My client is well known for ignoring these ColRegs completely which antagonises these raggies even more.

Usually my client can escape by getting up on the plane and wizzing out of your harbour but in the day in question he was being pursued by the racerists. These are a breakaway sect of raggies who follow an even more complex set of colour regulations allowing them to carry brightly coloured sails. These brightly coloured sails allow them to travel faster so my client was having to use more throttle to escape.

I reckon with this and a bit of plea bargaining I can get the sentence down to under five years.
 
Others have answered your question, but it seems the QHM has not done much to improve the situation.

When I got caught, the police rib had been following me for a few miles and only stopped me when I entered the 1000 yard limit (it was yards then) and slowed right down anyway. They cautioned me and asked whether I understood. I said I understood the caution, but what was the problem? They said they had been following me at 25kts, to which I said yes, but so what? They told me and said that the fine was up to £2000 - that's 15 years ago!

Neither of my charts had any indication of a limit. I asked many people and the staff at three Hamble marinas whether they were aware of the limit and every one said "No". There were no indications on the water.

The speed limit extends unusually far from shore and someone who doesn't know could not reasonably be expected to anticipate it. I asked how anyone was supposed to know, to which the QHM pointed me to tiny writing on the Portsmouth Harbour leaflet. As a visitor, you couldn't know about the speed limit until after entering the speed limit, and that's only if you entered Portsmouth Harbour itself and then got a leaflet.

The QHM commitment to ensuring better notification was clearly just hot air. I am appalled that, after all this time, the position remains so unsatisfactory. Perhaps they see it as a revenue raiser.
 
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Thanks for your valued input /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I was trying to have a serious post for a change /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I also got stopped one day by QHM, it was my first visit to Portsmouth, having seen the 10knt sign on on the way in past no4 bouy I assumed that is where the speed limit started, on the way out I opened up once clear of boats just after the swash and aimed for the sub gap, RIB came out and took my details, I phoned them on the following day to apologise and explain I was a visitor etc etc

I also suggested the 10 knot sign be extended to mention the 1/2 nm from shore bylaw.

I dont wish to antagonise my situation but if there were a few bylaw signs around I would not have been using a donut, no one really wants to break rules.

It wouldnt cost much

No jet skies past here
No do nuts
10 knots inland of here
no swimming here
Sail must not impede other boats in the channel
Keep to your starboard side
Low wash while passing small boats
Book a berth HM tel no......................
 
you're always welcome to my valued input ....

I didn't realise you were after a serious post - I did a google search on it and you'd be suprised what came up ... the nearest I could get to was this:




but I guess you were probably after this:
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No jet skies past here.......... Do you mean Skis?
No do nuts............Do you mean Doughnuts?
10 knots inland of here........Where is here?
no swimming here...........As above
Sail must not impede other boats in the channel......Did you really think you could slip that in un-noticed?

Keep to your starboard side............Of what?
Low wash while passing small boats.....How small?
Book a berth HM tel no......................The Queen wont be interested! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I also got stopped one day by QHM, it was my first visit to Portsmouth, having seen the 10knt sign on on the way in past no4 bouy

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Just as a matter of interest it's a maximum of 10 knots. If you create a huge wash at that speed then you should reduce speed. Wash has overriding precedent and you could well be stopped by the Harbour patrol, or "advised" to slow down if your wash is causing annoyance - and that means ploughing up the small boat channel and "rocking" other vessels around; particularly when small yachts are fighting the tide to exit.
 
Morally I agree, just for clarity

I entered Portsmouth @ 25 knots, saw 10knts at no 4 buoy and slowed to 10knots.
Once in the harbour entrance and close to other boats I reduced to our harbour speed of 7 knots.


On leaving I remained @ 7 knots until the swash way due to other boats, I opened up and cut across for the sub gap @ 25 knots.
I was amazed to be pulled up for speeding out there.

Now the wash issue really needs its own space because where morally we need to slow down I am not so sure 'wash' means a 40 cm wavelet produced from my little boat can cause any danger to boats heading either in or out of a sea harbour, some get a bit wound up about a petty bit of rocking and one has to question if they should be heading out to sea when a canal would maybe suit them and their crews better.
 
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one has to question if they should be heading out to sea when a canal would maybe suit them and their crews better.

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Wait for it!

However I agree. I'll bet that a fair number of grumblers about mobo wash will also be happy to sail out into a force 6-8 with some pretty big waves.

A matter of perspective?
 
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[/ QUOTE ]Matter of expectation, room to minimise wash and gradient of wash.....
Wash coming in from 100 yards away can be anticipated and the effects minimised... if a plonker passes within 5 yards then you have no chance of changing course to dampen the effects.
Don't forget - going out in a 6-8, the crew will be dressed and the boat prepared more securely for the weather ....
 
I assume there is free WiFi access in the QHM's Portsmouth brig?


seriously there is utter abuse of the speed limit on a daily basis. Just watch the Nelson pilot boat leave, always well on the plane before No 4 bar. Ditto the Solent cats - if you can see them after the black smoke has cleared...
 
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