catamarans & marina charges

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I don't really see where the problem is with marina berthing for cats . No one is forcing you to use marinas .Most are privately owned and can charge what they like . If they lose business through charging extra for cats thats their problem .

I get peed off when marinas charge me extra for having Davits and a two ft bowsprit. They don't give me a longer berth to accommodate them though but it's their marina and they can charge what they like so I have to pay up or move on simple.
 
Very rarely pay a surcharge for having a Cat. If they only ask the length on the radio thats all they get. Seem to get into most berths when using marinas .............

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Thats exactly what I do ,
whats it called ? "being economical with the truth " !

I called in at a little used marina on the west coast of France , once , and was put on the hammerhead in a near empty visitors pontoon
the UK Moody behind me was the same length on the same hammerhaed but was charged 50 % less .
I went to discuss this with the marina manager pointing out that we were there to visit the town , go shopping ,
pop into the chandlers , have a drink , dine out , and buy fuel and if he charged me the same rate as the Moody I would stay two nights ,
he saw the value of this and we stayed and payed the normal rate for a monohull .
excellent result and always worth trying , he was a pleasant guy and when he came in to the office the day we left there was a six pack waiting for him on his desk !
 
I mainly do single handed sailing and what I find unfair is paying the same fee as as people with 4 on the boat.I dont use marinas often for this reason.
 
I emailed jersey port today about staying at st helier for a week on a 38ft Athena. The price list clearly states 50% more if you have more than one hull. So I emailed them asking for discount and got this response.

"Thank you for your enquiry

Our Multihull tariff is primarily aimed toward high season periods or when space within the marina is at a premium

Around this time of the year, we are able to be a little more flexible however if you were able to offer a more accurate anticipated arrival and duration date, this would determine availability of space as our annual boat show will be taking place over the weekend of 4 - 6 May and our visitors marina will be extremely restricted on berth availability in the week leading up to the show, whilst pontoon arrangements are being made

Should you anticipated period of stay overlap into the pre-show or main show dates, we would however be able to accommodate you in our Elizabeth marina

I trust this information will be of assistance

Kind regards"

Now I think that is fair and reasonable. Why can't other robbing marinas do the same?

Tel
 
We had a cruising cat for five years. We never once had to pay a premium as visitors to a marina. We berthed in three different marinas during the five years after our marina asked for a 25% premium - Swale maina who had some cheek as they didn't have enough water for half the boats to float half the time! We left there sharpish. Likewise we only had a 13' beam. Makes it strange as we have that beam now and no one asks for a premium.
 
The marinas here seem to charge in categories - each of which have a maximum length and a maximum width.
A catamaran pays for the category into which they fit. There is no surcharge as such.

The operator probably plans/builds a certain number of berths for each category. However, because customers don't turn up in exactly the proportions forseen, some smaller/narrower boats will end up in berths designed for a bigger category. They won't be charged for the size of the berth though. They could also be asked to move if a smaller berth becomes free.

Seems fair enough to me.
 
"So its pot luck with the personality behind the till "

Depends whether the marina has a policy on it as well!

FWIW we don't apply a multihull surcharge at the moment, because 99% of the time we have space available. The problem comes when a cat has to be put on a berth which is suitable for a longer vessel, in order to accommodate the beam. The marina is then losing money in comparison. Multihull pontoon arrangements usually mean one less finger ie 2 fewer berths overall.



This cat has an LOA a tad under 8m, and an 8m boat would rarely have a beam more than 2.5m. A 4m beam would usually belong to a boat on an 11 or 12m finger.

This argument really only applies to finger pontoons IMO, since if you are on a hammerhead or a wall it makes little difference.

It would seem reasonable for the provider of a facility to generate an income from it, and if there is a cost involved in catering for some kinds of craft then it should be recouped, but I agree that an compulsory application of a surcharge could be petty.

In all the marina-bashing posts that I have seen (I usually avoid them, being in the business /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) I haven't seen any consensus about charging criteria - there will always be someone who will "lose out". LOA seems as fair a system as any, and if a vessel has "special needs" then the extra cost is either borne by them, or everyone shares the cost.

(And BTW, for everyone's info, "Registered Length" has little to do with ACTUAL length - it could be from one of several kinds of measuring systems. )


What a pleasantly rational answer!!
 
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