cherod
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possible / probable of course , tho i can not see any obvious damage on the upturned hulls,, only one board showing but that would be normal .
Catamaran capsizes off the Portugal coast. Three crew rescued, one lost
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Frogmogman
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In the article I posted, Régis told his cousin Marc "Hallucine était plein d’eau dans sa partie arrière, les étraves pointaient vers le haut et il y avait des débris de carbone." (Hallucine was full of water in the stern, her bows were pointing upwards and there was carbon débris).
He seems quite sure that they hit something "La navigation était tranquille et le TS 5 est un bateau très sûr, très marin. Il y avait un peu de mer mais pas plus de 16 à 20 nœuds de vent et ils naviguaient paisiblement, sous-toilés, avec deux ris dans la grand-voile avant la collision. Ils ignorent ce qu’ils ont tapé, peut-être un container" (The sailing was relaxed, and the TS5 is a very safe and seaworthy boat. There was a bit of sea running, but no more than 16 to 20 kts of wind, and they were sailing peacefully, under-canvassed with two reefs in the main prior to the collision. They don't know what they hit, maybe a container).
kof
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Cat was a TS5. See Catamaran sailing across the Atlantic: Why multihulls are taking over the ARC (yachtingworld.com)
There doesn't appear to be any damage to the hulls so not sure what it hit, if anything. It is on the "sporty" side of cat design so a lightweight design.
There doesn't appear to be any damage to the hulls so not sure what it hit, if anything. It is on the "sporty" side of cat design so a lightweight design.
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Frogmogman
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Echo.....echo......echo.
But thanks for the link to the YW article, which I do remember reading at the time.
cherod
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By all accounts a well proven cat
cherod
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As said , when you sail a cat , you wont go back ?
Zing
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So what happened? If you hit a container you shouldn’t flip, especially in moderate conditions.
cherod
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(. I dont know if you read the post by Frog ,). but the skipper has reported hitting something .
cherod
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Yes seems more to it , tho reported the boat was sitting bows up at one stage so could have rotated rather than flip , awaiting further authoritative reports .
cherod
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Not sure how “ moderate “ the conditions were considering the rescue vessel was hampered in her recovery methods due to the weather .
Zing
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16kt to 20kt is in my opinion moderate - reported by the skipper at the time of the accident. I still don't get it.
zoidberg
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Another catamaran went over a day's sail north of the Azores a number of years ago. This was a fast Plymouth-built boat, which had earlier competed in the Round Britain Race. On board were a number of RORC and OCC stalwarts and, no, it didn't get any publicity here!!
It took a while and a bit of sleuthing to piece together what happened. Apparently conditions were gentle, and the boat was proceding northwards under the masthead spinnaker.... the big one.
Apparently, the crew were enjoying a substantial lunch below, while the navigation, watch and lookout was in the capable hands of the autopilot.
Yes....
"A big gust came out of nowhere....."
By the time someone got into the cockpit to release sheets, they were well past the AVS.
They were ( all ) rescued by a British-owned 'banana boat' many hours later, landed on one of the Azorean islands, and slunk home, tails between legs.
Frogmogman
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I think your "slunk home, tails between legs" comment is a bit strong.
As regards Regis Guillemot's boat, if you read the YW article posted by kof, you'll see that Hallucine was fitted with an automatic sheet release system. "this monitors pitch and heel angle and is set to release the main and spinnaker sheet from a panel of cam cleats once certain settings are reached, and also set off an audible alarm. There is also a kill cord in the saloon".
cherod
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heath robinson versions have been used for a long time. any boat can have an accident , we will have to wait the full details on this one ,, thankfully it was not a mono hull or there may not be any evidence available .
Frogmogman
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These Marsaudon catamarans have been among my fantasy boats for a while now. Here's a video of Hallucine on the ARC last year in happier times.
Graham376
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Why? Mono hulls generally don't stay inverted, they self right.
cherod
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not with a hole in the bottom ,, they go down !!
Zing
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A similar story here:Another catamaran went over a day's sail north of the Azores a number of years ago. This was a fast Plymouth-built boat, which had earlier competed in the Round Britain Race. On board were a number of RORC and OCC stalwarts and, no, it didn't get any publicity here!!
It took a while and a bit of sleuthing to piece together what happened. Apparently conditions were gentle, and the boat was proceding northwards under the masthead spinnaker.... the big one.
Apparently, the crew were enjoying a substantial lunch below, while the navigation, watch and lookout was in the capable hands of the autopilot.
Yes....
"A big gust came out of nowhere....."
By the time someone got into the cockpit to release sheets, they were well past the AVS.
They were ( all ) rescued by a British-owned 'banana boat' many hours later, landed on one of the Azorean islands, and slunk home, tails between legs.
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zoidberg
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I don't. I knew 'em, almost twenty years ago.
Had you read my post with just a modicum of awake comprehension, you might have noted my reference to 'a number of years ago'..... and an entirely different boat and crew.
Frogmogman
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No, I got that. Still think it's a bit strong.
Have you ever considered working on your lack of tact ?
"Had you read my post with just a modicum of awake comprehension" is gratuitously and unnecessarily aggressive.