mcanderson
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Here is the AM in Beaulieu http://www.portdebeaulieu.com/aston-martin-sur-le-port-de-beaulieu/
Cars n boats
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jfm
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Thnaks Shane. Crikey it's worse than I feared. You have everything that Portofino said (seriously, where do you eat or sunbathe?) plus now from those high res pictures you have:
(a) confirmation the side triangles are solid not glazed
(b) Awful fit where the channel section at top of windscreen edge meets GRP - niiiice
(c) that compound curved glass windscreen that they raved about is about is clear as a wine bottle bottom.
(d) how do you actually get onto the foredeck?
What a pity. Great brand, great cars, no so good boat. Sadly I fear it will end up where the XSR48 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=x...ved=0ahUKEwjvjuXS1rLPAhWkB8AKHUMdDe0Q_AUICCgD ) ended up - a £1m+ claustrophobic boat that you couldn't sunbathe or eat on, and they built but a handful, and such is the demand for it now that the blue one that Hugo drove in SofF now sits unloved on chocks in a crummy roadside outdoor marine-graveyard in Villeneuve Loubet (cheap outskirt of Antibes), with road dirt splashed onto it by every passing lorry.
ari
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From the company that brought you the 21st Century Austin 1300 Vanden Plas! 
Portofino
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From the company that brought you the 21st Century Austin 1300 Vanden Plas!
Not quite the same -back then it's all about meeting EU emissions regs @ that time !
It's a car -not a boat - ticked the necessary boxes @ the time .
Something to do with trying the drag down average emissions for the whole group of modals to get underage bar - A v12 5 L or a shift towards this -you need a stool pidgeon - they got one !
Post Brexist --- well -AM can rid themselves of all this EU crap -and focus on the Day Job
rafiki_
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So you think that AML will only sell in the UK, and not export? I don't think their shareholders will be very impressed!
ari
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Whilst that was bandied around a lot, it was never actually the case. Proven by the fact that Brexit hasn't happened yet, but the Cygnet was dropped way before the referendum was even mooted.
Portofino
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AML post Brexit will have a wider choice ,more control on how to intergrate any green credentials -if any ,in what markets they wish to sell cars to .
Cloning a ready made Japanese one -albeit with Toyota ,s consent -agreed was a clumsy approach -but @ the time others were going down the Hybrid and or diesel route -Porsche for example .
Or VW,s approach -to meeting EU emission standards ! --well lets not go there!!
How ever the goal posts have moved -in particular with diesel .
So I don,t think it was the even the same "board " that ok,d the new boat project (probably a revolving door of personel? )
I would like to be a fly on the wall at these meetings ( lux car makers ) to see the presentation to the board for sign off .
"Hey guys we are gonna make a boat -in our brand image "
Cloning a ready made Japanese one -albeit with Toyota ,s consent -agreed was a clumsy approach -but @ the time others were going down the Hybrid and or diesel route -Porsche for example .
Or VW,s approach -to meeting EU emission standards ! --well lets not go there!!
How ever the goal posts have moved -in particular with diesel .
So I don,t think it was the even the same "board " that ok,d the new boat project (probably a revolving door of personel? )
I would like to be a fly on the wall at these meetings ( lux car makers ) to see the presentation to the board for sign off .
"Hey guys we are gonna make a boat -in our brand image "
rafiki_
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Brexit in no way changes the regulations in any of the markets that AML wish to export to. Brexit might change the UK regs, but this is most unlikely, as there is a move towards global harmonization of regs through the UN Working Party 29. This is incredibly slow as a process, but nonetheless the UK will either play to these rules or will not be able to export. The UK car makers will not want different rules in the UK to Europe as engineering and parts costs will increase. You might have seen Mike Hawes comments (CEO SMMT) the other day, and also Carlos Ghosn (CEO Renault/Nissan)?
jfm
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On the contrary; you do understand.
Portofino
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Agree --- I don,t know where you got the "changes regulations " from above ?Or the ref in previous post of me thinking AML will not want to export into the EU ? I never said or implied that .
Take the Cygnet for example -it was a moving target from Brussels that never actually happened (aggregation of emissions across range ) leaving AML with a marketing lemon .
Post Brexit any manufactor can decide in there own time scale ,at what cost ,etc how to comply with "the rules "
There will be options they can take to comply ,without Brussels telling em it as to be this way , that way ,then another way , following all directives zig zagging about .
They can wait for a hard target -set of "rules " and have the freedom of how to meet them in there own time Or work around them -As long as the Cat is skinned .
rafiki_
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Sorry, don't understand this either, so I'm giving up at this point.��
