carpeting the ceiling

[suse]

Does anyone know of anyone, or does anyone DO (ie paid), this job throughout a 27 footer? The present stuff is shedding like mad and is foul, and I just dont have the ability to do it myself. The boat is on the Medway (out of the water).

Thanks guys.

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[Talbot]

I got a proper carpet fitter to do mine. I prepared the area first to remove all the old glue and residue of the foam, used the vinyl that was there before as a coarse template for the new carpet. Also I used felt backed carpet (from carpet right) as this has a better insulation than the crap foam, and also doesnt deteriorate nearly as quickly.
IMHO looks OK

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[jimbouy]

How did he fix the gripper rods?


Sorry. In all seriousness..... do you mean you got a domestic type carpet fitter to do the job?

I've been considering this as a future option for repalcing the linings in the forecabin of my Centaur. (Job Number 125)


I've seen boats that were lined with carpet and think it looks and feels smart and warm.

So what kind of glue was used and any usefull tips on making the edges/joins look neat.

Jim


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[Strathglass]

Stick it on with industrial contact adhesive.

When using normal lining carpet the edges just get turned over.

I did it in the past on several hire boats.

I did have an air fed mask as the fumes can be quite bad.

It can look very good if fitted correctly.

Iain



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[Talbot]

Got a normal carpet fitter to do the job - i.e. the guy who has carpetted most of my house.

As you can see from the picture above, where we had a large area, the carpet was reduced in size to make it an easier fit, and then a stained hardwood batten was screwed in place to cover the join. Elsewhere the join was done very carefully, and it is difficult to see where they did it (after all this is one of the skill areas of a decent carpet fitter). Very important that the carpet style can be joined without the joins showing, and is best if a light weight carpet is used (also cheaper) IIRC capet was abt £6 sq m !!

We thought long and hard about what glue to use. Hawke House Marine in Gosport will sell you a glue, but I was advised that it might not be good enough for really hot weather (40+C) so we found a wholesaler in Southampton that would sell us the glue used for car roof linings. This was fierce stuff and cost us as much as the carpet itself. It actually attacked the glue bond between the felt and the carpet if you applied it too thick. One benefit of using this glue was that it tended to slightly shrink the carpet as the glue dried, giving us a really good finish inside.

I removed the windows for each part of the boat that was being done, cause it made it easier to fit the carpet, and enabled me to re-seal the windows (necessary!). I also bought quite a lot of hardboard for the fitters to lay the carpet on to paste the glue on, and to cut down onto. There was a fair amount of cleaning up of glue residue afterwards (acetone is great!)

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[jimbouy]

Thanks for the info.

I think the small centaur forecabin would make a good starting point for me to give it a try.

Cheers


Jim

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[suse]

IIRC???

What sort of carpeting is this, please? Your pics look very good, but if I keep the boat in the UK/local Europe, little chance of getting over 40 degs C, so otherwise would a contact glue be OK?



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[Talbot]

Re: IIRC???

The glue I am using is a contact adhesive. Most carpet fitters will already have a contact adhesive that they will offer , or you can go to hawke house marine and take their advise. The carpet is a standard felt backed carpet available from Carpet Right. The one I have has gone up in price, but last time I looked they had another similar version at a very cheap price just ask for the lightest weight felt backed carpet and see what they have.

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[snowleopard]

Re: IIRC???

normal contact adhesive is not ideal for high temperatures but there is an alternative which does work. both are obtainable <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.hawkehouse.com>here</A>

the 'normal adhesive is spray-on for one side and liquid for the other but the high-temperature stuff uses the liquid for both sides but is a pain to use as the liquid soaks into the carpet.

a better alternative is self-adhesive carpet (same source) which comes in rolls 1m wide and is available in pale grey or beige (or was in 2000). we used this and it didn't peel off during our year in the tropics.

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[Graham_Wright]

Re: IIRC???

What about double sided sticky tape? As a test, I stuck some on (the outside) of the hull about a year ago and I can't get it off!

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[alahol2]

Re: IIRC???

Try <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.sailcloth.co.uk/kayospruce.htm>here </A>.
Look for sidelining, it's like thin carpet but made for the job. They will also recommend a spray adhesive that is a thousand times easier to use than a spread on contact adhesive. I've now done parts of two boats and, although fiddly, it can be done very neatly. Stops all the condensation that you can get with vinyl. The company seem to sell mainly to the trade so make up a 'company logo' and print yourself an 'order form' to get trade discounts. (I always try this and you'd be surprised how much you can save!)

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[Trevethan]

We had a regular fitter do the job. The first adhesive he used took too long to go off so the carpet sagged. He then had a go with a spray adhesive, that worked wel until the heat of the summer.

We then went and used grip fill screed over the deck head, worked like a charm.

The hardest part of the job is the cutting... gluing it up is no big deal

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[richardandtracy]

If you're in Medway, try 'The Van Shop' in Sittingbourne (Tel 01795-472906). The owner can give lots of advice.. the problem is getting him to stop giving advice! He also often stocks sidelining material & that sort of thing - prices are amazingly low compared to chandlers.

I've seen similar material glued on in aircraft interiors using a Dunlop (I think) glue called 'Black Magic'. This has very good high temperature strength, but it out gasses something chronic until it's dry. The fumes are awful! It is also black [statement of the blindingly obvious!], not a good idea on a light coloured frabric if you're a bit messy when working.

Regards

Richard.


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