Can I draw a small current from alternator D+ terminal?

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If I draw a very small current from the alternator D+ terminal, will it have any consequences for the alternator regulation or performance?

I have recently fitted a NASA EG-1 exhaust gas temperature monitor, and have been experimenting with the most convenient way to connect it and use it. I initially powered it from the engine battery master circuit (actually B+ on the alternator for convenience). However, I found that after turning off the engine (but leaving engine battery master on) the temp in the exhaust would climb to a level high enough to trigger the alarm due to residual hot exhaust gases and no more cooling water flow. Increasing the alarm threshold did solve the problem of an alarm after shutdown - but then the monitor would not be as sensitive or useful in its intended role while engine is running.

I therefore powered the instrument from a lead from the ignition switch, so that as soon as the engine is stopped and ignition is off, the instrument would be off, expecting no more false alarms. However, this still did not prevent alarms on engine restart shortly after shutdown, because it would take a second or two for the coolant water to cool down the exhaust.

I am therefore thinking of powering it from D+terminal of the alternator. The instrument would thus only come on once the alternator was spinning fast enough to produce 14v, by which time coolant would have cooled down the exhaust system, so I could set the alarm at a low level without getting unwanted false alarms.

The only issue I have is lack of understanding of alternators - will a small current draw from the D+ terminal have any consequences for alternator output or regulation? I don't think it will - but over to the experts.
 
If I draw a very small current from the alternator D+ terminal, will it have any consequences for the alternator regulation or performance?

I power two relays, 70 and 30 A, from alternator D+ and have not noticed any problems.
 
The D+ is the output from the auxiliary diodes and can provide several amps with no problem, however it is 1/2 wave rectified AC and unsmoothed. (The battery smooths the main output's full wave rectified AC). This maybe a problem for some electronic devices though most will have their own voltage regulator and smoothing/filtering capacitors.
 
Thanks - I wondered if it might be half-wave. I have actually now connected my NASA EX-1 to D+, and it works fine, so I guess it must have its own inbuilt stabilisation. The annoyance of an overheat alarm after a restart is now completely cured too.
 
The D+ is the output from the auxiliary diodes and can provide several amps with no problem, however it is 1/2 wave rectified AC and unsmoothed...
My 150A Balmar alternator has a warning label on the D+ output warning to only connect to very low current devices, from memory this is marked in mA. Not all alternators have aux diodes, so D+ is derived.
 
The current draw of the EX-1 is <1.5mA. I also connected (as per instructions) my Sterling Regulator Pro to D+.

I wonder why Balmar warn against drawing current from D+.
 
The current draw of the EX-1 is <1.5mA. I also connected (as per instructions) my Sterling Regulator Pro to D+.

I wonder why Balmar warn against drawing current from D+.

I think you will have no problems connecting the alarm.
The current draw of my two relays is probably in the region of 500 mA = also no problems.
The warning perhaps concerns larger currents?
 
My 150A Balmar alternator has a warning label on the D+ output warning to only connect to very low current devices, from memory this is marked in mA. Not all alternators have aux diodes, so D+ is derived.

Way back I had an Oz made Ford (1982 Falcon) with an auto choke. This was activated by the accelerator and unchoked by temperature of the carby body. To accelerate the unchoking it had a heating element powered by the output from the alternator that is the centre of the 3 phase diodes. (so called D terminal) So in this case quite a high continual current drain at about 6 volts average and half wave from 3 phases. So should be no concern on current drain. olewill
 
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