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Why are they asking? Are they friends, or are they people shouting from the quayside?
Just carry on using "my boat for personal use".
Or are you asking if you can slip under the radar?
Can I accept a small donation towards fuel cost in lieu of fare
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Why are they asking? Are they friends, or are they people shouting from the quayside?
Just carry on using "my boat for personal use".
Or are you asking if you can slip under the radar?
William_H
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There are dangers in operating what is a commercial operation re the law and insurance of passengers. However you can make friends easily. Even from short acquaintance.
You can take friends out for a ride. You should never specify an amount for a donation and you should only accept a donation after completion of a safe voyage. Do clarify your insurance cover for friends on your boat and then spell this out to new friends.
On this subject I am fascinated by the rise of Uber "ride sharing" or taxi service when this is totally contrary to regulations regarding commercial passenger carriage. Uber and similar seem to have been able to thrive by defying the laws. Certainly our state government have tried to stop it but seem to have failed despite pressure from the regular taxi operators. Laws are pretty much the same for commercial operation of small, aircraft vehicles and boats. Many people do this "taking a donation" ina private operation to help defray costs so just do it carefully and know the risks. ol'will
You can take friends out for a ride. You should never specify an amount for a donation and you should only accept a donation after completion of a safe voyage. Do clarify your insurance cover for friends on your boat and then spell this out to new friends.
On this subject I am fascinated by the rise of Uber "ride sharing" or taxi service when this is totally contrary to regulations regarding commercial passenger carriage. Uber and similar seem to have been able to thrive by defying the laws. Certainly our state government have tried to stop it but seem to have failed despite pressure from the regular taxi operators. Laws are pretty much the same for commercial operation of small, aircraft vehicles and boats. Many people do this "taking a donation" ina private operation to help defray costs so just do it carefully and know the risks. ol'will
canvey
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It's bound to invalidate your insurance leaving you with 100% liability if anything happen.
Presumably using your real name on social media, and identifying your actual boat and location, suggests you don't have the presence of mind for doing anything "under the radar".
Not, of course, that I would have any idea what that might be ...
So you just blew the idea right out of the water. All you need is an old biddy to slip on the quay, a kid or drunk to fall off, and you're £1m in a hole. Do it properly, or not at all.
Presumably using your real name on social media, and identifying your actual boat and location, suggests you don't have the presence of mind for doing anything "under the radar".
Not, of course, that I would have any idea what that might be ...
So you just blew the idea right out of the water. All you need is an old biddy to slip on the quay, a kid or drunk to fall off, and you're £1m in a hole. Do it properly, or not at all.
pcatterall
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Are there any legal parallels to taking car petrol money when giving work colleagues a lift to work.
It used to be legal in terms of insurance?
It used to be legal in terms of insurance?
graham
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I think taking cash off people is a bad idea.If your passengers are friends they could show their appreciation by bringing lunch or taking you to the pub.
I have had friends insist on paying a marina bill for an overnight visit which is fine by me and in law I think.
I have had friends insist on paying a marina bill for an overnight visit which is fine by me and in law I think.
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graham
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Jim@sea
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Thats how the Inland Revenue see it. I had some old Pig Stys and converted them to stables and rented 4 stables out,
Farm buildings are exempt from Business Rates.
The Inland Revenue came along, measured the stables and said I was to be charged Business Rated.
I asked Why ? They said "If you take money off people we are entitled to our share"
canvey
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How did they find out?
I'm guessing you didn't advertise them on Facebook or YBW but the likes of them are the way people are being caught these days.
I'm guessing you didn't advertise them on Facebook or YBW but the likes of them are the way people are being caught these days.
Graham376
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Car sharing allows cost sharing, including a contribution towards servicing but not for giving total strangers a ride for money, which the OP proposes/questions.
Caraway
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I would think that it wouldn't take long to get shopped. Other people in the marina would be a first thought. "I'm sure he is running a business undercover."
Solent sailer
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That was the way I understood it, you might get away with being paid a reasonable contrbution to the fuel costs from friends But if you dont know the people you are taking I think you will be on dodgy ground with your insurance and licencing.
canvey
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I'm sure that someone else would soon get green eyes in a marina but in his case he was renting out some stables.
I guess the same pettiness goes on within the farming communities ... "If I can't do it, I'm going to snitch on him and stop him from doing it". I can't imagine that the planning department or Revenue would find out any other way. They don't have drones surveilling our every move yet. Although they may have countless bots doing so.