CAN FN2002 Alcohol Stove

[AndrewL]

I need to fit a new stove in my 22 footer and I'm considering an alcohol/spirit stove. A new Origo is a bit outside of the budget at the moment, however on my local "for sale" website I've come across a used CAN FN2002 "gel/alcohol stove" made by an Italian company called Can di Bellini Mauro. It's all stainless steel and looks well constructed and they seem to make a wide range of marine products, but I can't find anything much online.

This is the stove as listed on their website
http://www.cansrl.com/en/marine/gel...tainless-steel-with-gel-alcohol-fuel_157.html

Does anyone have any experience of this stove or this brand even?

The one noticeable difference between this one and an Origo is the fuel canister. The Origo canister seems to have some kind of wicking material inside, whereas on this one it is simply a pot. Would this make much of a difference?

Thanks in advance

 

[Cockaigne]

There seems to be an optional container for liquid alcohol which contains the wicking material.

http://www.cansrl.com/en/marine/gel-alcohol-stoves_1/stainless-steel-container_305.html

I have no experience with this make of alcohol stove but I have had an Origo for a few years and I prefer it to the gas stove it replaced. More importantly, she who does most of the cooking likes it as well.

 

[ghostlymoron]

Looks good to me you can use gel or liquid. Liquid might spill if not gimbaled and the write up is a bit misleading leading as it implies it can be used in an unventilated space.

 

[VicS]

Looks good to me you can use gel or liquid. Liquid might spill if not gimbaled and the write up is a bit misleading leading as it implies it can be used in an unventilated space.

I dont think the description is intended to imply that it can be used in an unventilated space. It is describing the way in which design and operation of the burners minimises the production of CO in normal use.

I would be worried that the simple design of the fuel reservoirs , compared with the Origo ones, would make spillage of liquid fuel on a boat a possibility. However there are other models in the range which are supplied with reservoirs designed for liquid fuel. Two burner one below

 

[William_H]

I have a quite old alcohol cooker which has a tank at the back mounted a bit above the burner. The heat and on off control is a simple valve. You open the valve and observe the little cup fill with spirit. You turn the valve off and light the spirit in the cup. After the spirit in the cup is mostly burnt away you open the valve and it begins to burn as you would expect. A bit tricky to get used to the way to light it. The fuel flows in a tube through the flame to vaporise it then is ejected through a jet to collect air in a venturi then to a diffuser. Now I describe this because it seems like a far better system than the Origo or any other type with a well of fuel under the flame. Indeed the tank on my single burner takes about 1 litre of fuel but on a 2 burner 3 litres. My local chandler (yachtgrot.com.au) (no catalogue) have this sort or did have. But don't seem to be available in UK that I have seen.
I think worth persevering before you buy the type in the link. good luck olewill

 

[AndrewL]

Thanks for the replies.

Vic, I'd not noticed that there was another model with a container for liquids. Those containers might be available separately, it looks like they should fit into the older FN2002 model. It's the older FN2002 model that I have seen for sale second hand at a good price, if I was buying new I'd go for an Origo. Alternatively, one of the many "alcohol stove burner pots" on ebay might work
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-...cohol-Liquid-Burner-Spirit-Stove/253204605379

William_H. That type sounds interesting so I did a bit of googling, was it a Punker stove from Sweden? It seems a good idea, it's still keeping it simple and not pressurized but gives a nice flame. I found a few links, they seem to have quite a following, but no sign of anywhere selling them.
https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/punker-marine-2-burner-alcohol-stove.633/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmA1U91tQeY

I currently have one of those portable gas stoves which have a compartment for an aerosol type gas canister. Last weekend while boiling the kettle I noticed a small fire ball around the canister. I assume it does not always get a good seal, some gas leaks and is then ignited by the burner, if you are lucky. If you are unlucky a larger amount of gas could build up before being ignited. I've now seen the various warnings about them on here, including the recent thread about a fire on-board. I've decided to ditch the portable stove. My Macwester 22 does not have a proper gas locker, although there is room to install one and other owners have done so. However, I mostly just want to boil a kettle so I think an alcohol stove will be fine.

 

[VicS]

Thanks for the replies.

Vic, I'd not noticed that there was another model with a container for liquids. Those containers might be available separately, it looks like they should fit into the older FN2002 model. It's the older FN2002 model that I have seen for sale second hand at a good price, if I was buying new I'd go for an Origo. Alternatively, one of the many "alcohol stove burner pots" on ebay might work
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-...cohol-Liquid-Burner-Spirit-Stove/253204605379

William_H. That type sounds interesting so I did a bit of googling, was it a Punker stove from Sweden? It seems a good idea, it's still keeping it simple and not pressurized but gives a nice flame. I found a few links, they seem to have quite a following, but no sign of anywhere selling them.
https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/punker-marine-2-burner-alcohol-stove.633/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmA1U91tQeY

I currently have one of those portable gas stoves which have a compartment for an aerosol type gas canister. Last weekend while boiling the kettle I noticed a small fire ball around the canister. I assume it does not always get a good seal, some gas leaks and is then ignited by the burner, if you are lucky. If you are unlucky a larger amount of gas could build up before being ignited. I've now seen the various warnings about them on here, including the recent thread about a fire on-board. I've decided to ditch the portable stove. My Macwester 22 does not have a proper gas locker, although there is room to install one and other owners have done so. However, I mostly just want to boil a kettle so I think an alcohol stove will be fine.

Yes if you look at their catalog you will find that they still list the FN2002. The FN2006 , te detils of which I "snipped" is a FN2002 supplied with both types of reser voir. There are also single burner versions of both.

Very wise to ditch the portable gas stove.
IIRC some of the early ones where made in such a way that they could be assembled incorrectly. This is what is believed to have caused some of the earlier accidents investigated by Hants Trading Standards, but even with modifications in their design there still seem to be too many accidents. Probably a good few of the older badly designed stoves in use as well.