Can anyone ID this boat

[jimbouy]

Not much to go on but does anyone know what type of yacht(let) this is?

http://www.griffinmarine.org.uk/wpe28.jpg

Thanks in advance

jim


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[tome]

Looks like a silhouette to me

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[DanTribe]

I think it's an Alacrity, built by Russell Marine.

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[jimbouy]

looking at pics of the alacrity on the web it certainly looks similar.

Can't find a sihouette to compare it to

Any more!!

jim

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[ex-Gladys]

Definitely not a Silhouette, they only had one side window. Is it a Seawych perhaps? There's one in front of our boat at the yard and it looks pretty similar.

Larry

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[tome]

Quite correct, the silhouette only had one window (long time since I sailed one).

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[andrewwoods]

Yes, it's a seawych.

See http://www.seawych.org

Andrew

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[Guest]

I believe it is a Vivacity 20 built by Russell Marine Ltd. Calvia Works. Princes Avenue Southend on sea. Specifications,
L O 20ft.0ins
L W 17ft.6ins
Beam 7ft.0ins
Draft 2ft 6ins
Ballast 800lbs
Displacement 1800lbs

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[VicS]

Re: NO IT IS NOT A SEAWYCH !!!

I have owned a Seawych for 25 years so I can be quite positive about it. Red hull but there the similarities end.

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[Guest]

It is identical except for colour to :

Alacrity 19 that I owned some years ago.

Russell Marine, Essex

Designer Peter Stephenson

circa 60's to early 70's.

Other names were : Catalina, Jaguar (much later when upgraded etc.)

Very good little boats, sailed like dinghy with a top on !


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[Guest]

Definitely not ....

Sil's are not this!!


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[Guest]

Alacrity 19 ..... Mk 2

Mk 1 had single larger window. They divided the window into two to allow split of the cabin in some boats.


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[Guest]

Easiest way to show its alacrity !

Standard engine fitting is a pair of vertical stainless steel slides fitted to the starboard aft transom to carry the outboard. The outboard was fitted to the bracket and then slid down the slides. It was a good sytsem and worked very well. Some owners took them off and fitted 'folding' outbd brackets, but these fouled the rudder often. If this boat has no slides ..... look for tel-tale filled holes where it used to be ..... about 18" apart and if I remenber right 3 each vertical, making 6 holes !!!! FILLED !!!!!!!



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[DanTribe]

Is it a dodgy photo, or does it really have a large dent in the side?
It looks as if it may have fallen over at some time, perhaps that's why she's called Tumble?

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[jimbouy]

Re: Easiest way to show its alacrity !

Nigel

Do you have any other tips on what to look for if i decide to take a look

Jim

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[jimbouy]

Dan

I don't know if it's a dent or a reflection although the rim between hull and deck also appears to have a ripple in it.


Jim


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[graham]

Looks like an Alacrity or a Vivacity which are almost identical but the Vivacity was 2 foot longer.

Both boats were surprisingly good sea boats and faster than you would expect.(I owned an Alacrity at one time and sailed on a Vivacity.)

They can be bought for around 1 to 2 k these days so dont pay over the odds if you buy one.

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[Guest]

Re: Easiest way to show its alacrity !

On these the rudder stock is often laminated teak / mahogany. It often shows signs of breakdown of the laminated joints. The stock is generally good and needs refastening or if you can get someone to do it for you .... re-gluing. It happens because the tiller passes through the timber stock head and twists the stock apart. If you drill and screw / bolt it, its only a temp solution and better to fit an inverted U alloy plate.

The Bilge keel bases are often chipped and scraped ..... so check that the gel is resealed, but you might find she has the hybrid keels where they are part hardwood and lead / iron as well as a GRP section. It only becomes evident when tapping or removing a patch of A/F.

They usually show signs of micro-blistering around the keel to hull areas and inbetween the keels on underbody. Its not really a big problem on these as they are so strong for their size ... but a survey may pick this up and claim osmosis etc. I had it all time on mine and never had to do anything - even the Ins. Co. ignored it and just asked that it be regularly checked. Had the boat 5 yrs and the readings and area remained constant throughout.

Forehatches and main hatch where most were ply have basically given way and should be replaced with new.... but check hatch corners.

Windows are into Rubber gasketed channels and often are green around the seal - letting in drips etc. If you remove to clean make sure you have plenty of elbow, time and string to put 'em back in again - they are TIGHT !!!! (Method is same as car windscreen ......... place window as far as possible intoi channel, with a length of string around the bit you cant' get it into ...... now as pressing the window into place pull the string to open and alow the rubber to squeeze around the string to close over the window edge ..... difficult to explain, but once you see a car guy do it !!!!

Common is that the under-cockpit bunks are damp ..... needs only a carpet tile system fitted to hull-sides and under-cockpit ........

Outboard bracket if original is no problem as long as you don't try to fit a too large engine. Then the top cover is hit by the rudder stock when hard over, also be aware that the prop can catch the rudder itself when hard over. I used a seagull 40+ L/Shaft and it was fine except getting in against full tide flow Langstone ....... so changed to Yamaha 5 BS ..... smallest larger engine I could find and that was great. Tried a Johnson 4 Seahorse first and to was too big for hard-over.... so that was relegated to dinghy work !!

Check carefully chain plate fittings as many were external, some internal ..... but both suffered easing in the fittings and some needed refit.

Mast tabernacle - check that it is bedded well and has not depressed the cabin coachroof with overtightening of shrouds / stays ...........

My boat had an Oak mooring post that rotted at deck line. It is an interference fit with for'd internal bulkhead hiding the anchor chain screwed to it to stop it coming out. The external section being about 1/4 inch larger all round so that it sits in the deck flange. Check that it is sealed well with silicon / sikaflex etc. But may be an idea to remove to check the timber for water rot. I replaced mine with a teak post, not as strong but more resilient to sea water .... maybe !!! plus it was easier to work !!!! A lot of boats replaced them with stainless steel posts and underdeck pads.

Mmmmmmmmm minds drying up at moment - if I think of anything else or you want to catch me on private .... ncl@naviatech.ee

Cheers

PS - she does look as though she has a 'dent' ...... !!


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Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[smee]

Definitely of Alacrity or Vivacity parentage!!

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[oldharry]

Agree:defintely Alacrity or Vivacity and most certainly NOT a a Seawych, which had an entirely different shape of cabin roof.

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