C1331 Border Force form email address?

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I filled in the form on my phone. Well I filled in lots of it but missed some bits and the date of departure wouldn't accept today!

I got a helpful phone call from Border Force, an email asking for departure date from one of the organisations and the yacht line thought I had arrived in UK?

I could design an online form that would go to three addresses with drop down menu for each area in 5 mins. What do our poor export community have to put up with I wonder.
 

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The quotation is taken from the PDF designed to be printed out and submitted by post. Not having a contract telephone, that is most convenient for me, It's also snag proof which I like.

This is a good overview courtesy of the Conyer Yacht Club:


"Sailing to and from the EU?

IMPORTANT! All UK registered pleasure craft must comply with UK post-brexit regulations.

IN BRIEF:

Form C1331 parts 1 & 2
Before departure from the UK to the EU Form C1331 part 1 must be completed and sent to the Border Force in Dover.
On arrival back in UK from the EU Form C1331 part 2 must be completed ready for presentation to customs after posting your arrival with the National Yachtline.

UK arrival procedure
Fly the 'Q' flag on entering UK territorial waters.
Phone the National Yachtline on 0300 123 2012 on or before arrival.
Be aware that no one can board or leave the boat and nothing can be unloaded prior to clearance.
Form C1331 itemises information that must be reported to the National Yachtline. Allowances and restricted goods are also detailed on the form. "



No doubt in the fullness of time the electronics will be sorted and some really barmy requirements will be inserted by the nerds. In the meantime I like speaking to Yachtline as it exonerates you in one easy swoop, without having to do much in advance.

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Thank you for the follow up information ?
 

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I am due to sail to the U.K. tomorrow and just started looking up what I was supposed t do

I had understood that the on-line filing facility was supposed to be up and running but had a nasty shock ..it is extraordinary when so much of the world, and even UK gov services have moved to true online services (and some of them are actually very good) that something so simple a reporting function is still not truly on lone

as far as I can see you still Either print off and fill in the C1331 and put it in the post, or enter your data on an excel spreadsheet and lodge it electronically

I live on my iPad, and I can update a PDF document on my iPad …this is what the French use, with an email link embedded in the form. I started fillinf in the C1331 form on my IPad and then realised I was supposed to sign it and send it in the post, with no email address offered.

I could not get my iPad to make entries on the excel doc, which of course is a Microsoft product. I’m not looking to buy Excel for IOS just for the U.K. customs.

what techniques have people used to do the excel form on an iPad ?
 

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Editing a badly formatted spreadsheet on a phone screen isn't going to be easy. Why can't we fill in the paper form, take a picture of it with the phone and email the image to HMRC?
 

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The National Yacht Line and Border Force have informed me that there are two ways that forms can be sent that are acceptable to them!!! One way is to email the badly constructed Excel (put together by someone who only has very basic knowledge) form by clicking the submission at the bottom of the spreadsheet; the only acceptable format is Excel; Google Sheets format is not acceptable!!!!
The other way is to fill the paper form and post it to the Dover address. The whole system is inefficient , expensive, less than effective and an indication that we are going backwards.
 

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I am due to sail to the U.K. tomorrow and just started looking up what I was supposed t do

I had understood that the on-line filing facility was supposed to be up and running but had a nasty shock ..it is extraordinary when so much of the world, and even UK gov services have moved to true online services (and some of them are actually very good) that something so simple a reporting function is still not truly on lone

as far as I can see you still Either print off and fill in the C1331 and put it in the post, or enter your data on an excel spreadsheet and lodge it electronically

I live on my iPad, and I can update a PDF document on my iPad …this is what the French use, with an email link embedded in the form. I started fillinf in the C1331 form on my IPad and then realised I was supposed to sign it and send it in the post, with no email address offered.

I could not get my iPad to make entries on the excel doc, which of course is a Microsoft product. I’m not looking to buy Excel for IOS just for the U.K. customs.

what techniques have people used to do the excel form on an iPad ?



Just show up and phone Yachtline, have the documentation ready, either to show to a customs officer or to post.

France is floundering in a similar manner. You will be pleased to know that Guernsey and Jersey have been much more organised than either of their larger neighbours.

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Just show up and phone Yachtline, have the documentation ready, either to show to a customs officer or to post.

France is floundering in a similar manner. You will be pleased to know that Guernsey and Jersey have been much more organised than either of their larger neighbours.

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The CI seem to be using the same system as previous years, certainly were last year. The covid paperwork caused more problems for me but hopefully not required now.
 

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The CI seem to be using the same system as previous years, certainly were last year. The covid paperwork caused more problems for me but hopefully not required now.


Yes, the Common Travel Area has been around for almost 100 years, in essence nothing has changed. It does not mean that Customs and Excise will not take an interest in boat movements but it does keep bureaucracy to a minimum.
 

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Did someone not say that phone calls to Borderline cost 69 p per minute & there was a wait to be answered.

It was a few years back but they did away with the dodgy 0870 number and it's now an 0300 which should be included with most people's mobile plans.

Does anyone have any reason to believe that a C1331 sent in is ever actually cross referenced with the calls to the yacht line they receive or indeed anything other than a waste of a stamp?
 

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I called the number on return from Guernsery and it confused them because they couldn't find my outbounds c1331 even thought I had emailed in in PDF to border force south East. It seems the solent is not inthe south east but is considered south as is the west country. I posted part 2 , I don't think anyone does anything with part 2's. I actually think the paper form is better. I opened the Excel with Apple Numbers and it corrupted the embedded scripts and many of the boxes had pre-filled with garbage data and the drop downs didn't work. If I exported it back to xls I doubt that it would be machine readable.
 

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I posted the C1331 Part 1 to Dover on the 17th.May and returned on the 15th.June.
Their spreadsheet would not open sensibly so I had decided against the email submission.
I called the Yachtline on arrival and was advised that it hadn't arrived or that if it wasn't emailed it would not be discoverable.
So with a fresh start we were done in 5 minutes.
 

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It’s really not that complicated to email the form as an attachment. Any iPad or iPhone can do it easily. The email addresses are included on the spreadsheet. All you have to do is copy and paste them into the “To” header.
 

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It’s really not that complicated to email the form as an attachment. Any iPad or iPhone can do it easily. The email addresses are included on the spreadsheet. All you have to do is copy and paste them into the “To” header.
That assumes you can complete the attachment. My Samsung tablet doesn't have the software to work on spreadsheets and I suspect that it would struggle with even more software.
 
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