BSS Consultation
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Xskipper
Active Member
Looks like a great idea?!
LeeME3
Member
Seems entirely reasonable so long as they define the standard appropriately - eg alarm must carry a kite mark / comply with BSxxxx. And don't use it as an excuse to hike the test fee too much! Mind you once I complete the next stage of work my boat will have no permanent gas installation anyway...!
Xskipper
Active Member
From the proposed BSS checks:
Carbon monoxide alarms must be marked as being certified by an accredited third-party certification body to EN 50291 or equivalent.
Re no permanent gas installation. I think the reason for the proposed introduction of CO alarms into the BSS requirements is the findings of an MAIB report which identified the dangers to boaters of CO from external sources such as engine emissions of boats moored nearby. So even if your boat had no sources of CO there is still an albeit small risk. For peace of mind a £14 alarm seems a sensible precaution.
Carbon monoxide alarms must be marked as being certified by an accredited third-party certification body to EN 50291 or equivalent.
Re no permanent gas installation. I think the reason for the proposed introduction of CO alarms into the BSS requirements is the findings of an MAIB report which identified the dangers to boaters of CO from external sources such as engine emissions of boats moored nearby. So even if your boat had no sources of CO there is still an albeit small risk. For peace of mind a £14 alarm seems a sensible precaution.
LeeME3
Member
I agree entirely. Both my boat and my camper van have alarms even though neither (soon) have permanent gas installations. I do occasionally use a portable stove 'down below' so for that alone i consider it essential - easy for it to blow out / get forgotten etc. Plus I have a Perkins diesel engine - all sorts comes out of that!
BSSOffice
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Just want to point out that the consultation closes in just under a month on 9 November.
Thanks to all who have contributed so far.
Thanks to all who have contributed so far.
BSSOffice
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Last call for your coments via www.boatsafetyscheme.org/about-us/co-alarm-consultation/ the consultation closes at end of play today 9 Nov. We've had just under 250 responses so far. A lot of thought provoking entries. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far.
TrueBlue
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That's worse (percentage-wise) than the response to the Thames" licence" / registration consultation.
Just shows you that boaters can't be bothered to comment because they think 'it's a done deal' despite what they might think.
My personal objection is that the technology is just not yet suitable for confined spaces in the same way that smoke detectors aren't.
I don't have to have any detection equipment in my home why the ..... should I have to have one in my boat???
The BSS is there to protect danger to the public and not the boater.
Make equipment advisory and promote devices which are capable of protecting those in their boats.
ctva
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This is a shame, I have had BSS cert on the boat since 2005, yet I have not heard of this ‘consultation’. Was it advertised to existing BSS holders? I came across this thread by chance as I have nothing to do with the Thames but keep a boat on the Crinan. Does the BSS office even realise that there are canals in Scotland and their users are sea going vessels?
Unfortunately the BSS is not seen in a good light up here as the whole scheme appears to have become a self perpetuating bureaucratic empire that has lost it real purpose.
As it is, I’ve had a CO alarm for many years fitted to best practice of the manufactures but I will wait for the BSS regs which will say something else!
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NormanB
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The consultation was (is) conducted by the CRT and the EA, the former only has a remit in England and Wales while the latter is a subset of DEFRA and their jurisdiction is again England and Wales ( their website states: Although Defra only works directly in England, it works closely with the devolved administrations in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, and generally leads on negotiations in the EU and internationally.)
So it looks that this is a matter for Scot Gov and the Scottish Canal trust (or whatever they call themselves) - I am not sure though why this discussion only popped up in the Thames forum on this site but this is not a place for formal consultation - it is after all a bit mickey mouse whichever sub forum is being discussed.
oldgit
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Scotland frequently in the past led the UK in much needed progressive legislation.
Eventually somebody south of the border desperately looking for an answer to some difficult problem requiring legislation, realises that the Scots probably sorted it years ago and have moved on.
Eventually somebody south of the border desperately looking for an answer to some difficult problem requiring legislation, realises that the Scots probably sorted it years ago and have moved on.
mersey
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If you look at my original post #1, you will see I link to an article that was shown on the front page of ybw.com
I made a post in this forum, as I know most readers of it have a BSS and are interested in the topic.
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