Bricard 'bump' security key

[Whitelighter]

Seralia's main door lock has the following key

I've tried the usual local places to get one cut but no one recognises it.
They seem French and the boat spent the last 10 years in St Tropez so I guess the lock was replaced at some point.

Can anyone suggest somewhere who might be able to cut a key

 

[rafiki_]

Can't help with the key Jez, but time to get the table polished

 

[Whitelighter]

It's a boat - not a museum piece

 

[Gwylan]

It's a boat - not a museum piece

Sad to say you might need a little credit card that came with the lock, this has the necessary details. Well that's what happened to me in Belgium with a similar lock. The the nominated agent will suck his teeth and produce a number that you think is his phone number. But it is just his estimation of how desperate you are for a copy.

Sod the polishing anyway.

 

[Gwylan]

A rainy day and any excuse not to get on deck is welcome

Try this link, tells you how to order spare keys.

http://www.bricard.com/FR/PARTICULIERS/Pages/doubles-cles-bricard.aspx

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

If the lock cylinder itself is a euro cylinder (it looks like it could be) I'd just buy a new generic euro cylinder complete with keys, it'll be cheaper.

 

[rafiki_]

It's a boat - not a museum piece

its a boat, and hence should be treated with respect, and tlc Jez. Then she will look after you

 

[Whitelighter]

If the lock cylinder itself is a euro cylinder (it looks like it could be) I'd just buy a new generic euro cylinder complete with keys, it'll be cheaper.

I wondered if that might be a solution. It does look like a cylinder - and I doubt the Italians would of used a French lock so I suspect it's been changed at least once.

How do I tell if it's generic?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I wondered if that might be a solution. It does look like a cylinder - and I doubt the Italians would of used a French lock so I suspect it's been changed at least once.

How do I tell if it's generic?

Dimensions. They are very easy to remove - one machine screw in from the end of the door. 35-35 is the most common size. I think in your position I'd just buy one and try it.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-locke-5-pin-euro-double-cylinder-lock-35-35-70mm-nickel/1817g

 

[adey]

I replaced mine with a thumb-turn lock. I figure it's easier to lock at night and safer in an emergency.
http://www.screwfix.com/c/security-ironmongery/thumbturn-euro-cylinders/cat810310

 

[Phildorset]

I replaced mine with a thumb-turn lock. I figure it's easier to lock at night and safer in an emergency.
http://www.screwfix.com/c/security-ironmongery/thumbturn-euro-cylinders/cat810310

That's a very good idea... thanks for that - I think I'll do the same. P

 

[Whitelighter]

WHat about salt water durability. Ok so not much gets to the cockpi doors but underways spray gets sucked in.
I'd happily spend a bit more than £7 on a stainless or water rated one.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Our Spanish front door key looks similar. I went to a Timpsons to get a spare cut, they muttered something about having a certificate, so I gave up. Back in Spain at our local ferreteria I had one cut in seconds for just a few Euros. I presume you've tried that route?

 

[Whitelighter]

Nope not tried in Spain....

 

[mcanderson]

Jez,

You will need to find a security store/locksmith rather than a small shop that cuts keys. Then you will need to provide the key and as you won't have the card that comes with that style ID for yourself and the address for the key. The locksmith will then be able to cut you a new key. It could take a week to get the key done.

I can give you an address in Beaulieu sur Mer as we had to have extra keys cut for our apartment and had to use this route. It cost €100 per key.

Otherwise find a local locksmith would be my start point.

 

[Hadenough]

It's a boat - not a museum piece

Absolutely :encouragement:

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

WHat about salt water durability. Ok so not much gets to the cockpi doors but underways spray gets sucked in.
I'd happily spend a bit more than £7 on a stainless or water rated one.

My point is to spend seven quid on one just as a proof of concept. Then if it does fit, you can happily spend £100 or whatever on a stainless replacement. Or, more pragmatically, you could live with the £7 lock for a couple of years and then buy another £7 lock when the original has gone a bit rusty.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Buy the £7 one. This thread is another example of how we all get ripped off for things people claim are specific to boats.

 

[Boat2016]

Buy the £7 one. This thread is another example of how we all get ripped off for things people claim are specific to boats.

I would rather pay a bit more and buy something that will last rather than a cheap lock that will corrode, leave a rust stain then have to be drilled out to fit the replacement, not very cheap then at £7 is it, there's some things that are a rip off and some things that are not, I like to do the job once.

 

[Momac]

I googled Bricard and key blanks came with UK price of £2.99 for a blank looking similar.
So I would guess a decent UK locksmith could obtain a blank and copy the key.