Branscombe Beach closed

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it may be technically legal but you cannot hide the fact it is

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Thankfully they haven't brought the 'Thought Police Bill in yet" No doubt you will be an avid supporter
 
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Do you know of someone who has stolen from this wreck - if so it is your duty to report it and appear in court as witness to the crime

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Tangomoon, there is no obligation under English law to report a theft.

There is an obligation to report money laundering. And handling stolen goods is an offence. Aiding and abetting theft is an offence. But there is no criminal offence of failure to report a theft

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No you cannot compare it's under maritime law.

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More nonsense.
 
is that why it was originally called "ebay", dya think? Well, even if it isn't i will file it away as the reason it's called ebay anyway, along with lots of other vaguely believeable rubbish to come out with when i'm a grandad or just very old.
 
Tangomoon has a good point

I find my head going with the JPs on here but my heart goes with tangomoon's POV.

The UK is such an awful goddamn depressing place this January; interest rates up, most people's personal inflation at between 7% - 10%, stuck in stupid overseas wars with a mendacious PM who's lost all grasp of reality and lives in some fairy-world, thousands of repressive new laws, islamic terrorism, council tax revaluation ... oh, boy.

And suddenly it's Christmas again.

Oh c'mon - every one of you who's read Patrick O'Brien and cheered the Shelmerston smugglers as they got one over the Revenue; every one of you who's seen Whisky Galore and didn't write letters of protest to the distributor saying 'Disgraceful! Encouraging criminal irresponsibility! Should be Banned!"; every one of you who find an echo of a chuckle in your souls when some enterprising rascal gets one over the Establishment ..... this is no different.

Let's have a laugh and wish them well. Apart from the personal possessions of that Swedish bint (and she would have been better of saying 'Oh! I'm so glad I at least have a chance of getting my stuff back; by now it woulds have been washed into the approaches with the tide ...") I'm sure there will be an amicable and legal line drawn under this.
 
I'm sure that you're right, and that's why people who have helped recover the goods and preserve them deserve a reward (salvage) for handing them back to their rightful owners. If the owners don't want them back, then the salvors are likely to be given the item to keep.

It's very like finding a lost wallet on a bus. You could argue that if you hadn't come along and found it, then someone else would have pinched it. But using that kind of argument to justify hanging on to the wallet is a bit spurious IMHO. A decent person would hand it in, and would be given it back if the owner hadn't claimed it after a period.

The only difference with the wreck is that even if the owner does claim it back, the finder will be entitled to a reward.
 
Decency would have seen the salvors pull the unopened crates (not containers I note!!!!!) up past the high water mark to protect them, and not break them open.....

And before anyone says "yeah right... any idea how much they weigh?"... perhaps you might be reminded of the 'well intentioned' salvors just having a bit of fun and an unexpected early Christmas by going onto the beach with a tractor so that they could cart off more..... FFS.... how anyone can be defending these people is beyond me......

If I really believed that they were doing anything other than lining their own pockets at for example the expense of ever increased insurance premiums, I'd be quite happy about the situation.... but they're not are they?... they're stealing it. Which is illegal. I look forward to the 28 days expiring, and for announcements of arrests.

I find myself ashamed to be the same nationality as these people.
 
This is an extract from the latest MCA press release..

"People invaded East Devon beaches yesterday and today to remove cargo from the containers which had been washed up. They trampled over gardens and verges, and brought large vehicles and roughly constructed 'stretchers' through villages in order to take away cargo ranging from nappies and empty barrels to BMW motorbikes. In addition, containers which held people's personal possessions were looted and their property discarded on the beach. These activities have caused damage estimated to be 800 % more significant than the damage caused by the incident itself.">

I stand by my previous words, I am still in the belief that the people on that beach stealing stuff are scum, even if some report the their finds the mess they left behind is unacceptable!
 
Cripes - I go out for the day and look what I find has happened to my early morning post!

There was an interesting local TV programme this evening called A Westcountry Childhood. In the 1920s and 30s similar things went on when ships ran ashore on the Cornish coast. A point was made that in those days the locals, mainly poor fishermen, took whatever they could which gave them to opportunity to have things they did not even know existed.
 
Brian,

Apart from the obvious theft of a lot of gear, it is the massive mess I am really upset about. Yes the authorties could have done more but I doubt any of on here last night would have expected there to be 100's and 100's of people destroying the place and ruining the coastline and sea for everyone. Forget about the legalities even and its still wrong with whats happened. I am sorry but the pictures of that beach today made me sick.
 
Also as has been pointed out, when the containers first came ashore the majority were still intact. Now the "salvors" have cracked them open, taken what they want and spread the packaging all over the beach. Thats not making things better for anyone.
 
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