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Why do people have a bow thruster when they have twin screws? Are they completely incompetant?
Piers
Well-known member
Now that's a question if ever I heard one - I heard the gauntlet being thrown down.
But before I answer, perhaps you could answer the following to show what your own experience is?
Do you drive a boat with twin screws? If so, are they duo-props? What type of hull? And what length? And do you ever have to moor in windy conditions?
Piers du Pre
MBM Cruising Club enthusiast
www.dupre.co.uk
But before I answer, perhaps you could answer the following to show what your own experience is?
Do you drive a boat with twin screws? If so, are they duo-props? What type of hull? And what length? And do you ever have to moor in windy conditions?
Piers du Pre
MBM Cruising Club enthusiast
www.dupre.co.uk
hlb
RIP
I wouldn't call them incontinent! Puffs yes.
But I would not go so far. On second thoughts though, maybe they do piss themselves!
Haydn
But I would not go so far. On second thoughts though, maybe they do piss themselves!
Haydn
JohnR
New member
Yes, I am. Even with twin screws and bow thrusters I manage to mess up most manoevers - but sometimes they save the boat next to me.
byron
RIP
Beats me, some Twimbles have twin screws, bow & stern thrusters several crew and still can't come alongside even when being blown on.
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david_bagshaw
Well-known member
Simple
So you can come alongside into minimal space , sideways,short handed, SAFELY
David
www.yachtman.co.uk
So you can come alongside into minimal space , sideways,short handed, SAFELY
David
www.yachtman.co.uk
byron
RIP
I can do that with twin screws whilst being blown off
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Deleted User YDKXO
Guest
Well hallo sailor. I'll try and put this in simple terms so you can understand. Unlike sail boats which have a large lump of something underneath which keeps them steady in the water and little up top (just like sailors really), motorboats tend to have no lump underneath them and a lot up top which means that when they are stationary in the water in a beam wind, they tend to go sideways rather fast.
Now you can have single screws, twin screws or as many screws as you like but the inalienable fact is that all these screws come out somewhere near the back of the boat. So, whilst you can control the back of the boat with your screws, the front tends to go wherever the wind blows it.
So, my little rag and sticky friend, give thanks for the bowthruster for it is often this humble object that stops your sail boat from crushed against the quay wall by the gin palace that rafts up next to you
Now you can have single screws, twin screws or as many screws as you like but the inalienable fact is that all these screws come out somewhere near the back of the boat. So, whilst you can control the back of the boat with your screws, the front tends to go wherever the wind blows it.
So, my little rag and sticky friend, give thanks for the bowthruster for it is often this humble object that stops your sail boat from crushed against the quay wall by the gin palace that rafts up next to you
boomer
N/A
Our Hatteras has twin bow-thrusters. Does this make me doubly incontinent?
hlb
RIP
But with twin screws its' sailing on a six pence now 65 foot or over it may be a help. But with twin scews you can put it exactly where you want to the inch or two.
No problem on a six pence. just need the right crew and captain.
Haydn
No problem on a six pence. just need the right crew and captain.
Haydn
Moose
New member
Don't blame an F33 owner, on the sea trial I did I was going faster sideways than fowards!
paulineb
Active member
Are you allowed to use bow thrusters in a boat handling competition ?
Pxx
Have a cool yule
Pxx
Have a cool yule
ccscott49
Active member
I have twin screws on my 57' 48 ton motor sailer. fairly long keel, single midships rudder. If the wind catches your bow when you are going astern into a berth, say in the med, you will wish you had a bow thruster! I am not incompetent by any means! I admit my bow is fairly high! Warps are very useful for helping, but only when you have something to make them fast to on the shore! Twin rudders in the propwash would help a great deal, tide and current also help, but I have none of those things. Positioning the bow before hand also helps, but not if it gusts! My boat could never have a bow thruster, you would need some cornish tin miners to put a hole through my bows and I'm not prepared to take away the strength where I might need it, floating containers etc. But if I could I would!
hlb
RIP
Like I said, once near 60 ft, it seems to make sence.
But mostly used as excuse for complete incontinant, wool heads.
Own up. Who's having one fitted to the tender, for Christmas!
Haydn
But mostly used as excuse for complete incontinant, wool heads.
Own up. Who's having one fitted to the tender, for Christmas!
Haydn
david_steward
New member
Re: Who needs them?
I have two screws (one of them loose some would say) but a total absence in the thrusting department. I guess that a bow thruster makes things easier but I seem to do ok without.
I suspect that they are becoming more popular due to the ever increasing amount of first timers buying ever larger craft as a first boat. Without having come up through the ranks as it were, they perhaps lack the skill and confidence to park their £1/2 Million willy extension next to a stone quay without a noise like a washing machine full of nails coming from the pointy end.
As with so many gadgets on cars, they will become the norm that we wonder how we ever did without. Like central locking, abs, injection, electric windows, aircon, airbags etc.
Bah Humbug.
Dave S
I have two screws (one of them loose some would say) but a total absence in the thrusting department. I guess that a bow thruster makes things easier but I seem to do ok without.
I suspect that they are becoming more popular due to the ever increasing amount of first timers buying ever larger craft as a first boat. Without having come up through the ranks as it were, they perhaps lack the skill and confidence to park their £1/2 Million willy extension next to a stone quay without a noise like a washing machine full of nails coming from the pointy end.
As with so many gadgets on cars, they will become the norm that we wonder how we ever did without. Like central locking, abs, injection, electric windows, aircon, airbags etc.
Bah Humbug.
Dave S
KevB
Active member
So not having a bow thruster makes one a better skipper eh??? Don't think so, I would use anything to make manoeuvring my boat easier (by the way I don't have a bow thruster) So lets do away with power steering as well then cause that can only make moving your boat easier??? And fenders who needs them then, only used by wooses, lets just park grp to grp or grp to pontoon.
And what about all those sail boats that have electric winches for the sails and auto tillers (whatever that is) only used by poofs???
And engines, who needs bloody engines???? a couple of oars will suffice and really sort the men (and women) from the boys (and girls).
Doh
All IMHO of course.
And what about all those sail boats that have electric winches for the sails and auto tillers (whatever that is) only used by poofs???
And engines, who needs bloody engines???? a couple of oars will suffice and really sort the men (and women) from the boys (and girls).
Doh
All IMHO of course.
KevB
Active member
Thinking about it must be a jealousy thing, I aint got one so I'll belittle anyone who has.
ccscott49
Active member
Whoa! Kev! I never said anything about not having a bow thruster making one a better skipper! I think you should be pointing your finger somewhere else!
ccscott49
Active member
I was talking about the tender!!!!
KevB
Active member
ccscott49,
Sorry,
Wasn't aimed at you or anyone in particular, yours was the last post and I just replied to that. Sorry.
Sorry,
Wasn't aimed at you or anyone in particular, yours was the last post and I just replied to that. Sorry.
