ghostlymoron
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This looks like an ideal stopover for my little bilge Keeler - sandy beach, toilets, shop and café. Is there any reason why not?
Borth y Gest
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JumbleDuck
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As the name suggests, it was a port for many years - basically until Maddox built The Cob and Porthmadog supplanted it. Friends of mine had a house there for many years and kept a variety of boats on the beach or drying moorings. I believe the bar can be a bit vicious.
peteK
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A lot of bars can be vicious when people start drinking too much.
geem
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You right, that bar can be hazardous in the wrong conditions. When I was a novice sailor in my first boat we sailed from Pwllheli to Porthmadog. A short 10nm sail. As we got closer the wind and seas built up to such an extent that we were worried about turning around and going back with our 10hp outboard. We pressed on and picked up the outer marker buoy. From there we followed the buoys. There was white water all around us and we surfed over the bar into the relative calm. We didnt have a wind instrument but the Moody that had gone out for a play in the estuary said it was gusting over 40kts. Strong W/SW winds certainly do kick up the bar but it can be a pussy cat in any other direction
ghostlymoron
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Do you think I could lay a mooring there?
raven
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These days Borth y Gest is really only suitable for shallow draft boats and can be tricky to navigate on account of the changing channel.
It sits on the approach into Porthmadog at the confluence of the Glaslyn and Dwyryd estuaries. The pace of water coming through both rivers, coupled with the prevailing weather conditions can mean that the shape of the channel changes regularly and the navigation buoyage may not keep up.
Generally there is a deep channel running into Porthmadog through ByG and there is a "step" from the channel onto the shallow sloping beach at ByG.
In fair weather it is relatively easy to navigate into ByG at +/- 90 minutes of high water, drop the hook and take the ground...not necessarily in that order
The channel fairway marker is approx 3 miles out from Porthmadog with the shallow sand bar (referred to above) being approx 1 mile in from there - stick closely to the buoys and hope that the Harbour Master has been diligent in his work.
Certainly it's a very pretty little seaside village with stunning views of the Moelwyns and Snowdon mountain ranges as you approach. The Italianate village of Portmeirion is just a mile across the estuary, albeit just hidden from view.
It sits on the approach into Porthmadog at the confluence of the Glaslyn and Dwyryd estuaries. The pace of water coming through both rivers, coupled with the prevailing weather conditions can mean that the shape of the channel changes regularly and the navigation buoyage may not keep up.
Generally there is a deep channel running into Porthmadog through ByG and there is a "step" from the channel onto the shallow sloping beach at ByG.
In fair weather it is relatively easy to navigate into ByG at +/- 90 minutes of high water, drop the hook and take the ground...not necessarily in that order
The channel fairway marker is approx 3 miles out from Porthmadog with the shallow sand bar (referred to above) being approx 1 mile in from there - stick closely to the buoys and hope that the Harbour Master has been diligent in his work.
Certainly it's a very pretty little seaside village with stunning views of the Moelwyns and Snowdon mountain ranges as you approach. The Italianate village of Portmeirion is just a mile across the estuary, albeit just hidden from view.
C08
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What lovely spot, we used to go there to the cafe anchored close by in a variety of boats. You really should go over to Portmeirion if you have the opprtunity. The Madog Sailing Club used to lay marker buoys over to the beach a PM. An idylic spot at a fairytle beach. We used to dry out on the beach but there used to be a strange deep and narrow channel running close to the beach and then shallow again furth out. The local yacht clubs at PWLy Madog or Mochras will have the current local guidance.
JumbleDuck
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I'm afraid I don't know - my friends sold their house their some time ago and I haven't been there since. I'd suggest calling the Porthmadog HM, who either covers ByG or knows who does.
Ports.org.uk / Porthmadog
