Foxy
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Freya 39 ra ra ra!
Boats for Bluewater list
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snooks
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Before you get too excited
He also suggests a Contessa 26 ra ra What?
Gimme our Sadler 32 over the Contessa 26 any day
jonic
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Moody 38 ra ra ra! (...although of only moderate quality)
dulcibella
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Rustler 36 is just a big Twister, so the design obviously gets his approval
dratsea
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It was a 40 (and he wished he had gone for 44) but Nigel (many thanks if you read this) was very helpful in 1999 and we have made many of the changes he wanted on his Crealock. Sara Jane is a pig in the marina, not much better in English Channel and Ok in the Atlantic. But, she is brilliant in the Pacific. Is John Neale based on West Coast?
John
Bajansailor
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I have been on board Foxy's Freya here in Barbados and also in England 20 years ago with her previous owners, and can confirm that she is definitely rather ra ra!
Also met the Jonics when they arrived here last year, and their Moody is pretty ra ra nice as well.
By the way, this lad John Neale's first Mahina was an Albin Vega. I have a copy of his book 'Log of the Mahina' from the mid 70's, and that is precisely what it is - a log. I never managed to finish reading it..... Its interesting that he doesn't acknowledge that she was a Vega, but there again, if he has a Rallberg Hussy 46 now maybe he doesn't want to.
Also met the Jonics when they arrived here last year, and their Moody is pretty ra ra nice as well.
By the way, this lad John Neale's first Mahina was an Albin Vega. I have a copy of his book 'Log of the Mahina' from the mid 70's, and that is precisely what it is - a log. I never managed to finish reading it..... Its interesting that he doesn't acknowledge that she was a Vega, but there again, if he has a Rallberg Hussy 46 now maybe he doesn't want to.
Goldie
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Tranona
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Difficult to say without asking them all! - but the reports usually feature a sample and many seem to carry on from there.
Perhaps the problem with making sense of peoples' choices is this reference to "Bluewater" with the inference that it is something special and only certain types of boats are suitable.
What is very clear is that most of the boats deemd to be "Bluewater", both in your examples and in the list that started this thread are no longer in production and often built to designs that are 30 or 40 years old. Where boats are currently built to these old designs (or design principles perhaps), they are very expensive. Therefore people choosing a new boat are tending to buy modern production designs. These seem perfectly capable in general of doing the job.
In 10 years time we may find old style boats have disappeared from the scene as they become too old and the advantages of newer designs are more accepted by both builders and owners. Cast your mind back to the 20 year period from mid 70's during which the then "traditional" long keel designs were just about totally replaced by new fangled (unseaworthy?) fin and skeg. Any changes may also be brought about by a change in the profile of owners!
Perhaps the problem with making sense of peoples' choices is this reference to "Bluewater" with the inference that it is something special and only certain types of boats are suitable.
What is very clear is that most of the boats deemd to be "Bluewater", both in your examples and in the list that started this thread are no longer in production and often built to designs that are 30 or 40 years old. Where boats are currently built to these old designs (or design principles perhaps), they are very expensive. Therefore people choosing a new boat are tending to buy modern production designs. These seem perfectly capable in general of doing the job.
In 10 years time we may find old style boats have disappeared from the scene as they become too old and the advantages of newer designs are more accepted by both builders and owners. Cast your mind back to the 20 year period from mid 70's during which the then "traditional" long keel designs were just about totally replaced by new fangled (unseaworthy?) fin and skeg. Any changes may also be brought about by a change in the profile of owners!
Goldie
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That probably hits the nail on the head!