Boats for Bluewater list

jonic

jonic

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I haven't seen this list before but apparently it's been running for some time.

It's a list of suggested boats for Bluewater compiled by experienced American sailor John Neale of Mahina Expeditions. Quite a few British boats, Moody just scrapes in as being of "moderate quality" and no AWB's as far as I can see.

http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html

List is in the link above, but you need to scroll to the bottom of the page.
 
Just goes to show that Darwin was right! isolate an environment and its species develop in a different way! Notice there are no Cats either.

Would be interesting to compare that list with what people actually use - if you could find a way of doing it.
 
galadriel said:
Interesting comparison Moody/Catalina!
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Dont have a Moody but did have one once. Member in the club has a Catalina too. Don't know where he is coming from with this comment - the Moodies might be of middling quality like Westerly ( below the Swedes but better than Bav) but the Catalina in the club is dreadful. Rivals Legend in that respect, which in my view puts it well down below BenJeannBav et al.
 
Holman's Twister is not listed but Fisher motor-sailer is. :confused:

He says the Fisher is suitable for high-latitude cruising. Presumably that is because it would be nice and warm in the wheel-house (at least until the wheelhouse windows and doors got smashed in by one of those gales that inconveniently turn up in high-latitudes from time to time) :D
 
jonic said:
I haven't seen this list before but apparently it's been running for some time.

It's a list of suggested boats for Bluewater compiled by experienced American sailor John Neale of Mahina Expeditions. Quite a few British boats, Moody just scrapes in as being of "moderate quality" and no AWB's as far as I can see.

http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html

List is in the link above, but you need to scroll to the bottom of the page.
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Might be since 1986...

Westerlys 33 to 36...

Storm 33
Falcon 35
Seahawk 35
Riviera 35
And the Corsair 36.

The last Corsair was built in 1986, so that must be the date of the list thereabouts.
 
If you all look, it was last updated in Jan 2010, how more recent do you want?

True it may well have been started years ago.
 
Bosun Higgs said:
Dont have a Moody but did have one once. Member in the club has a Catalina too. Don't know where he is coming from with this comment - the Moodies might be of middling quality like Westerly ( below the Swedes but better than Bav) but the Catalina in the club is dreadful. Rivals Legend in that respect, which in my view puts it well down below BenJeannBav et al.
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I agree with you, Catalina's - Leg end, yes
 
If indeed it was updated in Jan. 2010 there are some glaring omissions in the list although the article is a good read,

Brgds
SB03
 
Yes, an interesting read. I noticed that he is a fan of short overhangs in a boat to give a more pleasant motion... is this a reasonable assesment? I rather hope so since the only time I've ever actually been seasick was on a boat with long overhangs, beating into a F7-8 across the north Minch. Perhaps a different design would have a comfier motion....?
 
dratsea said:
Crealock 44 is not just on the list, it is one of the illustrations, and she is what we use!
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However, if you compared this list with the entry list of the last ARC (250+ boats), you would find very little in common!

Interestingly, the sainted Nigel Calder used to have a boat like yours (although I think it was a 40). He now has a Malo and recently wrote an article explaing how much things have moved on since those boats (and his predecessor Colin Archer type) were considered the bee knees for "Bluewater"!
 
His description of J yachts questions their place in his table:

"Fast down wind, pound upwind, minimal tankage and storage, several have lost keels and rudders" :D
 
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