Boating season is officially starting!

Returning to the anchor, I don’t have a choice as it had to fit in its pocket .We don’t see it either so the jewellery side of any equation = nil .
They all fit Bruce , a claw and it has so far always worked .
Just as well btw .
We do put a lot of chain out .
There’s always anchor debacles at any busy spot .I have come round to the conclusion it’s technique related to scope L .
Bit like tyre and fuel threads on car forums , they all work and have folks supporting one or the other brand .
An Anchor thread is the same .......thank god they all work too . Manufacturers and suppliers of anchors , fuel , tyres or what ever @ shows of course has suitable marketing material which supports there brand ......but they all do .





 
MrB said:
Out of interest, what helicopter is that?
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Helo = an airbus h130 from monacair fleet as Porto said; plane = a latitude.

Someone mentioned AnCams. Did you guys see the current Mby magazine with test of new squadron 68? The pics, including front cover, showed an AnCam. This forum should have patented it :D
 
jfm said:
@bouba, I thought you’d comment on the plane more than the helo :D

@above three posts: I’m always amazed at these Delta comments. I don’t doubt you guys because you are super experienced and know your stuff. But I have never had a delta fail to set, or slip, even in howling winds. And there are millions in service. So I wonder why we have differing results. Maybe the delta is overly scope/chain sensitive - I always use plenty of chain, never 3-4x. Do you guys perhaps use less chain?
A Rocna would be fine too obviously and I accept that at the limit it seems to hold on longer than delta, aotbe, but it is among mankind’s ugliest creations. An Ultra is surely best because it is like a piece of jewellery and equals if not surpasses Rocna on holding. :D.
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Isn't an Ultra just a shiny Delta?
 
Portofino said:
They all fit Bruce , a claw and it has so far always worked .
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Bruces are very popular with boat builders, particularly Italian ones, but only because their shape fits the bow more snugly than other anchor shapes. Nothing to do with their efficacy
 
Portofino said:
They all fit Bruce , a claw and it has so far always worked .
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My claw has until recently never let me down and never let go. Then in August in sheltered waters but a gusting to F9 wind in a favourite anchorage it let go 3 times in a narrow channel. This shook us up a bit as with the storm it was pitch black and we could not sight any transit to gauge position. At slow speed the chartplotter was simply spinning. We had about 50 m max either side of us before grounding and it will take at least 30 of those to get enough speed to stabilise the chartplotter. I saw what I thought was a channel buoy and headed for it. What I didnt know was I had rounded a headland and it was not a channel buoy but a red beacon for a nearby small airport. Beacon being land based did not show on chart and I had never seen it before. By the time I realised my error from the chartplotter stabilizing I was almost aground. Full astern and the boat stopped and the boat immediately swung with the wind upsetting my sense of direction and throwing the chartplotter into another wobbly. Now I had about 10m one side and 90 another but where was I?
No. I have been converted to the need of something that is more of an all rounder. My anchorage has suddenly developed a massive seaweed growth and if the claw slips slightly it grabs bunches of seaweed and doesnt reliably reset. So I'm looking for something with a sharp heavily weighted tip and holding power sufficient to suspend the boat from if such a thing exists.
My so thought channel buoy light, that's all that could be seen.

 
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Bruces are very popular with boat builders, particularly Italian ones, but only because their shape fits the bow more snugly than other anchor shapes. Nothing to do with their efficacy
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Yup I have always thought that. Some IT builders take it a step further and install the Bruce cousin that doesn’t have the central blunt “tongue” that the Bruce has. Looks like it will skid over weed even more than Bruce.

Bruce also chosen by builders who want to fit 2 anchors that “spoon” each other on the bow(:D). Prin Y85, myag’s old s’seeker 80, etc.
 
BruceK said:
No. I have been converted to the need of something that is more of an all rounder. My anchorage has suddenly developed a massive seaweed growth and if the claw slips slightly it grabs bunches of seaweed and doesnt reliably reset.
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Really scary experience Bruce but thank heaven you made it out. The problem with seaweed bunching is a problem with every anchor if it doesnt get a bite on the seabed under the weed. The anchor has to be heavy enough and correctly designed to be able to punch through the weed into the solid stratum below
 
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Really scary experience Bruce but thank heaven you made it out. The problem with seaweed bunching is a problem with every anchor if it doesnt get a bite on the seabed under the weed. The anchor has to be heavy enough and correctly designed to be able to punch through the weed into the solid stratum below
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Just to reitterate the difference between the Rocna and the Delta is as different as chalk and cheese.
Yes, I agree that the Ultra is likely to be the best but there only one thing worse than losing an anchor on the sea bed and that is losing an expensive anchor on the seabed.
 
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Really scary experience Bruce but thank heaven you made it out. The problem with seaweed bunching is a problem with every anchor if it doesnt get a bite on the seabed under the weed. The anchor has to be heavy enough and correctly designed to be able to punch through the weed into the solid stratum below
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It was a bit of a wakeup call. As with everything when something goes wrong it goes wrong in series. During the second drag one of the drives picked up a tail end of the davit ropes that had blown loose and stalled the engine. (mea culpa they were too long but of a handy length) The one that the steering pump is on. With the ropes binding the leg in gear I had to force the lever into neutral which also tore the lever free of it's mount. Started the engine to regain steering while dragging a broken davit through the water but now only on one engine. You cant make it up. Needless to say the Admiral was less than impressed and humhfed off to bed leaving me on lookout for the night.

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have a look at mantus as well.
not sure I think it's slightly cheaper than a rocna and I've been extremely happy with it now. Had a 15kg bruce, now a 20k mantus

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I cant take a roll bar on my setup. I think I will get a Spade. Highest tip point weight and aggressive angle.

This chap did extensive real world tests. Unfortunately no Vulcan (Rocna) . This is just his conclusion after 50 plus vids on the tests

 
We have been swimming this afternoon.
Not cold yet but not as warm as the summer months.

Couldn't resist taking a pic of our Rocna - well dug in - 9m of water in sand.

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This is where we are.
Fantastic - a bit like a very nice Es Trenc for those Mallorcan boaters who know Rapita.

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But unlike Es Trenc, there is a fantastic local village with 3 good restaurants and a nice quay to tie the tender.

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I As you can see I had the drone up today so I will make a short video of the place when I get some more time.
 
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Not sure we wanted to know you painted your toe nails, M;)
 
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