Boat similar to Rustler 36

I don't know if it will fit your budget but I would seriously look at the Mystery 35. It is Steven Jones designed,solid goes like a rocket and is stunning.


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Seven Spades said:
I don't know if it will fit your budget but I would seriously look at the Mystery 35. It is Steven Jones designed,solid goes like a rocket and is stunning.


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The mystery 35 is a stunning looking boat with a great performance.

An owner who berthed alongside us last june in Dartmouth came on board our IP 350.

He said " Bloody Hell-dont let my wife see this! If she does I'll have to get one! "

The accomodation is tiny compared to the IP. If long term living on board is envisaged it would be restricting IMHO.

All boats are a compromise. If the OP would accept wheel steering the choice is much wider.
 
Try and get hold of a Yachting Monthly boat test article from around 1994 which had the following:

Rustler 36
Vancouver 34
Tradewind 35
Saltram Saga 36
Dawn 39 (Contessa)
and one other that can't recall

Great comparison of all relatively similar (on paper) yachts
 
E39mad said:
Try and get hold of a Yachting Monthly boat test article from around 1994 which had the following:

Rustler 36
Vancouver 34
Tradewind 35
Saltram Saga 36
Dawn 39 (Contessa)
and one other that can't recall

Great comparison of all relatively similar (on paper) yachts
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Most of those don't qualify if the OP really does want a newish boat less than 15 years old as he clearly stated.
 
Tranona said:
Most of those don't qualify if the OP really does want a newish boat less than 15 years old as he clearly stated.
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The top three do although in very small numbers and rarely on the market.

What's with the 15 year cut off? All these boats are built like the proverbial outhouse. Many older ones have had refits to bring them up to date.
 
rotrax said:
The mystery 35 is a stunning looking boat with a great performance.


The accomodation is tiny compared to the IP. If long term living on board is envisaged it would be restricting IMHO.

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That is my concern around it - my Centurion 32 is very small inside but the Mystery 35 looks no bigger (and only has 5 berths!)

Anyone on the forum actually own one?
 
E39mad said:
The top three do although in very small numbers and rarely on the market.

What's with the 15 year cut off? All these boats are built like the proverbial outhouse. Many older ones have had refits to bring them up to date.
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Read the OP.

"Still in production or no older than 15 years"

Plus he has already discounted the Rustler. How many of the other 2 have been built in the last 15 years with tiller steering? (another of the OPs criteria)

The reality is that apart from the Rustler there is no boat currently in production, except the Rustler - and most of those will have wheel steering - in the UK at least.

As I suggested earlier if the 15 year rule is relaxed, the list of possibilities is endless, but it seems clear that the OP wants a new or nearly new version of boats that were common 30 or 40 years ago. Easy to achieve if he is prepared to have a custom build. I am sure that somebody like Ed Burnett would be delighted to design one (or update an existing design) and get it built. However he is likely to find that the Rustler is a bargain basement boat by comparison!
 
Our IP has access to the emergency steering-a S/S tiller that works the stock directly through a square on the top-through the helm seat.

It comes to mind that modifying say an IP320 or 350 would be quite simple and probably not too expensive.

It would require removal of the steering pedestal, helm seat and the fabrication of a tiller and fastening to the rudder stock-all easily accessable, plus making good the apertures left in the cockpit sole.

If all else fails.................................
 
rotrax said:
Our IP has access to the emergency steering-a S/S tiller that works the stock directly through a square on the top-through the helm seat.

It comes to mind that modifying say an IP320 or 350 would be quite simple and probably not too expensive.

It would require removal of the steering pedestal, helm seat and the fabrication of a tiller and fastening to the rudder stock-all easily accessable, plus making good the apertures left in the cockpit sole.

If all else fails.................................
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Have you ever tried the emergency tiller? Every wheel steered boat should have one, but that does not mean it is effective as the sole means of steering. Boats are usually wheel steered because the loads are too high for a tiller, hence the dominance of wheel once you get above 35' - and on modern boats with big balanced spade rudders even smaller.
 
Long keel and attached rudder less than 15 years old is a huge ask.
I have always been impressed with the Dutch Victoire boats, designed by Dick Koopmans and with a long fin and separate rudder.
Botenbank.nl seems to be like our apolloduck, or try the De Valk brokerage site.
There is a 34 footer that probably has as much interior space as a Rustler 36, and they come with tiller steering s well s wheels.
 
Tranona said:
Have you ever tried the emergency tiller? Every wheel steered boat should have one, but that does not mean it is effective as the sole means of steering. Boats are usually wheel steered because the loads are too high for a tiller, hence the dominance of wheel once you get above 35' - and on modern boats with big balanced spade rudders even smaller.
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Yes, I have fitted it and know its shortcomings. But that is as an emergency measure. By the very design of the boat it must be short enough to clear the wheel and pedestal. Without those there a tiller could be longer and thus be easier to use.

The autopilot is directly acting on the rudder stock-this would be the same with a tiller should the wheel be removed for conversion.

The IP also has a 2 inch hole in the uppermost rear part of the rudder so it can be steered with ropes if required. Bob Johnson the designer insists on this-$H1t happens...........................
 
LittleWings said:
yes, it is.
The TS wishes gained 4 feet http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?369206-Blue-water-boat-up-to-32-ft
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Thanks for the reminder. That thread also identified that it is impossible to get a boat that meets all the OPs criteria, even if the size is restricted to 32' rather than 36'.

Guess like last time only one further post essentially rejecting all the suggestions!

Edit. Great minds and all that... but some are slower to get thoughts together and type!
 
Is the OP a dreamer, tosspot, tyre kicker or voyeur-or none of the above.

I was unaware of the previous thread.

Or he has come into a bit of money and wants a bigger one.

Whatever, all it proves is that we all like discussing boats for others................................
 
rotrax said:
Is the OP a dreamer, tosspot, tyre kicker or voyeur-or none of the above.

I was unaware of the previous thread.

Or he has come into a bit of money and wants a bigger one.

Whatever, all it proves is that we all like discussing boats for others................................
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Does it matter?

If you enjoy contributing to the thread then contribute, if not then don't.

Not sure the motivation of the OP really matters
 
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