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Odd that I didnt notice ONE person trying the helm positions, its straight down to the cabins. Can you buy these boats without engines., or is it because they wont move once in the marina ?
And how if you are showing a boat at a boatshow for goodness sake, can you have resin drips and sealent smears on the finish for 350k and upwards? Elsewhere,on a certain German boat, it looked as though a three year old had been let loose with the caulking gun, hinges in the floor with the knuckle part upwards so you can sever your toe within 5 minutes of being aboard. I concluded they left it this bad so you couldnt complain if you order one and it looks just as much of a mess as the showboat! Sealine,Fairline,Regal we re all pretty good though, but Windy.. how do they make each boat so totally faultless? Amazing,- though so is the price. Sure,build quality is reflected in the price, but even if you are using cheaper fixtures and fittings, shouldnt you expect better than some of these examples.
That said, great day, and was very impressed with Sealine.. very usuable boats, though i think I ve seen enough maple finish for 12 months.

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Hands Up to that. I initially looked at the cabins to see what the fit and space was like (for SWMBO), even if I could stand up in the shower / toilet compartment, but then did try the helm positions.

How much space for gadgets etc... position standing up... was impressed by Four Winns, Bavaria and Sealine with the thought put in, but the others you could see where the money wasn't spent and some of the wiring... quite shocked. /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif

Glad I went though as has opened my eyes to a few of them - plus promises of a few trial runs later this season - so looking forward to them. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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I suppose there is an argument that says you're going to be spending a lot more time using the accomodation in a marina than actually being at sea. Anyway, SWMBO usually also has a big say in boat buying process and she wont give a toss about the helm position
I suspect a lot of the show boats are hastily cobbled together just in time for the show and probably finished off by the stand salesmen. Thats why I would never buy a show boat especially as the great unwashed have been trampling all over it for a week and a half nicking door handles

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SWMBO looks at the accomodation, I go and look in vain for the chart table and the large space to fit decent nav gear.

Then I sit down at the helm to figure out how little you can see from sitting.

Then I stand up and see how many of the instruments you can no longer see when standing.

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aha.. sooo true.!! Ah, sir, you want to be able to see where you are going AND all the helm functions at the same time? Standing AND sitting? Very novel,sir. Funniest one was on one boat the missus couldnt see the end of the bow over the helm, so she stood, and then the windscreen top edge blocked absolutely everything, so she tried the bolster,sitting,leaning.. nothing worked. Dont think the salesman wanted to let her try standing on the seat. Bring back a crows nest maybe?(and she is a perfectly normal 5ft 6.) And I notice that the smallest helm dials are fitted the furthest away. Sometimes about 1.5 metres away. How the hell are you going to read those unless the boat is stationary? No, I can see that of course down below must also work, I was just surprised that actually driving the thing seemed an irrelevence.

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Every time we kook at boats. Tutts first looks at the anchor winch set up, then the cleats, navigators seat and chart table arangement, can you lay down and watch the telly. Tutts picked Mucky Farter when we had gone looking at a trawler yacht. Course she was right, the other boat had bad ergonomics, as she called it.

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You cant use language like ergo..... on this forum, Kim will have you sinbinned, disgusting!

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No. It's just selfishness. You see it's her jb to look after the anchor and ropes and things. Shes not bothered about driving it so does not give a stuff about that!!

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I certainly tried the helm position on the Hardy Commodore 42 - and its superb. Now to get SWMBO and daughter to overlook the showers, and see the rest of the boat for what it is.

Anyone else look at the Elling E3? Nicely laid out - not sure I'd be completely comfortable with a single engine (even with the 'get you home' sail drive option).

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