Boat painted ( finally ! )

[Parabolica]

Looks great and sets you up well for a good few more years of elegant boating ahead.

I too had my boat painted at the start of this year and the improvement to the look and feel of the boat is truly amazing.

On mine the simple to remove parts were removed to do the work and those elements that were far harder to access were left and masked but certainly masked by a skilled person as you cannot tell.

Enjoy your "New" boat !

 

[Portofino]

Wow PF, thanks for such comprehensive explanation, but my question was actually much simpler.
I mean, I'm well aware of the reasons for and against removal of all metal bits, in preparation for a paint job.
What I was curious to hear is if you're happy with the result when it comes to all the fine details around the masked areas, nothing else.
In fact, that is where the result can be a bit disappointing when going the tape masking route, even if only perceivable on close look - hence hard to judge from the pics.
Though on second thought, there is one pic which shows some paint marks over the steel bits: the one showing the "Itama 42" detail.

There is a bit of paint on the port Itama metal good spot .None 9n the stb .I was gonna gently tease it off .Mrs Porto says leave it for a while as the sea , sun , thermal expansion…with time will make removal easier.The issue doing from the get go is a sharp pointed instrument marking the hull as you try and press on the metal name .
There was more to be lost in terms disturbance then gained by metal removal.

Re Anchor .Yes it’s an emotive subject but for me I am out of the loop as the Bruce has to fit the pocket , the tip pocket .
It works we have 70 M of chain .I can’t see it never see it so eye candy SS + chain to match is pointless .
How ever doesn’t stop me listening / reading other folks anchor threads for recreational purposes

At the newness factor .
Agree .
We did the cockpit cushions late last season and Bimini too .Just done the teak this AM .

Suppose re newness I now have the weight of responsibility of the first scratch !
The berth is wide and the area wind sheltered + it easy to turn etc etc .

 

[Chris H]

Don’t bring it to Sanremo Porto !

 

[Elessar]

It’s taken 2-3 yrs to organise due to covid disruption .Finally pinned down a quality paint team .
I did have a smaller out fit tee d up in nearby Savona pre covid , saw there work etc but it was all cancelled off .
The Amico Yard in Loano have been doing the annuals 2 x now , so last summer I approached them with a view to get it done for this summer .Haul out was late May .It’s gotta be fitted from a practical aspect around the SY activities as they block the yard and they can’t move mine to the covered shed .Also I was thinking ( rightly or wrongly) about the ambient temps .ie avoid deepest winter .

I am a pretty hands off trusting bloke and so busy with other none boaty stuff I just blindly trusted them .Didn’t even ask what paint system .Well plaint threads are like anchor threads , and oil / tyre / brake pad threads on car forums .
They used found out yesterday btw the Stoppani range of 2 K , that’s two pack paint sprayed on .There we’re plenty of dinks from the past 20 yrs btw to fill and flat out .
I hadn’t polished it the previous 2 seasons .Partly covid , partly trying to minimise the wax or paint repellent substance build up .
I know they should degrease it , but all the same the less wax polish layer the better the prognosis was my rationale.

Its the same team and paint They SY s btw .There’s always one or two far bigger on the go in the yard coved with vac tents .


Well I am utterly and totally delighted .
They copied the name font even the SSR No , and kindly moved the two lower “ lines of beauty “ ( that’s what they call the white lines btw ) a bit higher away from the WL .

Here s a few pics .

You just wash it never needs a polish I understand.

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^^^ - Primer + base coat + flatting off ^^^

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Do you mind sharing how many €€€?

 

[Portofino]

Do you mind sharing how many €€€?

Not at all its was €19000 + tax all in .
The reg hull AF + anodes is around €3 K that inc 60 L of 15 / 50 man spec oil they kindly leave on board + what ever substance they do the with stern gear - sorry forgot to ask .It works btw .

I have looked at what I have put in it excluding annuals and prices and reckon I will come out quits or optimistically slightly above water .

But as someone has said you do indeed get a new boat factor and it feels good .That’s unquantifiable £/€ wise , as is the whole mobo thingy .

 

[MapisM]

60 L of 15 / 50 man spec oil

FYI, in the MAN approved oils list (several pages long) there's no 15W-50 oil.
Most of the oils in the non-CR list is 15W-40, and most of those in the CR list (which are also approved for usage in your non-CR engines) are 10W-40.
But neither of these two lists include any 15W-50 oil. Happy to send them to you, if you wish to check them out.
Not that I think the slightly thicker 15W-50 will hurt your engines, mind.
Just saying.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

FYI, in the MAN approved oils list (several pages long) there's no 15W-50 oil.
Most of the oils in the non-CR list is 15W-40, and most of those in the CR list (which are also approved for usage in your non-CR engines) are 10W-40.
But neither of these two lists include any 15W-50 oil. Happy to send them to you, if you wish to check them out.
Not that I think the slightly thicker 15W-50 will hurt your engines, mind.
Just saying.

But I think the Man 710hp 12-liter is the first generation common rail from Man.

 

[Portofino]

FYI, in the MAN approved oils list (several pages long) there's no 15W-50 oil.
Most of the oils in the non-CR list is 15W-40, and most of those in the CR list (which are also approved for usage in your non-CR engines) are 10W-40.
But neither of these two lists include any 15W-50 oil. Happy to send them to you, if you wish to check them out.
Not that I think the slightly thicker 15W-50 will hurt your engines, mind.
Just saying.

Typo should have been 15/40 it’s home brew Italian , IP “ Italian petroleum” .3275

Only did 50 hrs last season .One does wonder , but something deep down tells me to continue doing annuals .It’s more of the additive package deteriorating with time than the actual lub element weakening .So it’s a time thing , despite so little hours compared to a truck , bus etc .
The marina guys take the old away so doing this way = zero lugging about and it’s a doddle to do with the fitted pumps .

The 50 bit is only thicker at higher temps .The important No is always the first , the 15 W which is quite thick in the gen scheme of ICE oils .
eg Porsche reccomend 0W/ 40 ….it’s like water even when cold .It’s to do with there cast al / Nk cylinder bores ....they are delicate .
Ferrari 5w / 50 and bimmer ( BMWs ) M s I mean proper ones with performance engines the higher is 60 W .

Most diesels with Al pistons and steel rings on steel ( replaceable ) liners like our MAN s it’s as you say boggo 15/40 .
The ring tightness of a D is very loose ( hence the initial start up rattle ) but as the ( sorry guys ….l) dreaded EGTs rise metaphorically and really exponentially the rings expand and fit tight .During that warm up that’s when the oil turns black .
So with this built in looseness you need a thick oil at the start like a 15 W.

I think reading car forums and boat Diesel forums it’s possible to shorten your engine life by deviating from the manufacturers spec .Happens a lot in the petrol car world .A lot of folks simply don’t get it .

While we are on oils a lot in fact the majority of supermarkets oil full synthetic is recycled .Greta will thank you but in reality they only contain a fraction of the additive packages of the full fact 2x or 3 x the price of branded oil .That’s ok for your lawn mower .

 

[Mr Googler]

One thread that contains anchors…… and oils!

all we need now is how fresh paint effects EGT’s and we’ve hit the trifecta!

 

[Bouba]

One thread that contains anchors…… and oils!

all we need now is how fresh paint effects EGT’s and we’ve hit the trifecta!

Is it electric

 

[Portofino]

One thread that contains anchors…… and oils!

all we need now is how fresh paint effects EGT’s and we’ve hit the trifecta!

Yes it would nice to “ do “ paint only but there’s so little out there .
I have tried to make some semblance of marine paints but got no where so simply handed over trustingly.
Just choose a yard that does a lot .

 

[MapisM]

But I think the Man 710hp 12-liter is the first generation common rail from Man.

I believe the engines PF has in his boat are the D2876LE401, rated for 700hp and managed by an electronic governor, but not equipped with common rail injection.
AFAIK, the first CR implementation on the 6L block only happend (around mid naughties) when they also changed the model naming - to R6/730 first, and R6/800 later.
Regardless, the 15W-40 IP oil in the last pic that Porto posted is M3275 compliant according to its label, and that is what really matters.
In fact, M3275 is the MAN coding for non-CR engines oils, as opposed to M3277 for CR engines oils.