Boat not selling in Spain

Do not bring it back to UK.For what its worth,suspect that most boats in that price range will be bought by people trading up. Stuff is not selling here unless very keenly priced.
The UK market is finally coming to terms with what you need to do to sell boats but there is backlog of vessels that have been sitting around for some time,which will need to be shifted at "what the market will pay" prices and yours will be competing against them.
If a boat has not sold for several seasons,it will be great incentive for the owner just to unload the thing.
 
Why ask a UK broker? Cranchi are hard work in the UK.

£60k?, when you have a choice of 2008/2009 biats at £55k. Why do you think you can buck the market. Firefly got it about right, if you must price in Stirling then £49,950 is you ask and be prepared to take an offer. Though I would advertise in euros otherwise you'll have to keep a weather eye on exchange rates and keep adjusting your price.

It is very unlikely a UK buyer is going to take your boat
 
Whitelighter said:
Why ask a UK broker? Cranchi are hard work in the UK.

£60k?, when you have a choice of 2008/2009 biats at £55k. Why do you think you can buck the market. Firefly got it about right, if you must price in Stirling then £49,950 is you ask and be prepared to take an offer. Though I would advertise in euros otherwise you'll have to keep a weather eye on exchange rates and keep adjusting your price.

It is very unlikely a UK buyer is going to take your boat
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I asked a UK broker to get a feeling what I could possibly market the boat if i did bring it back to UK. I am now better informed. The boat is staying in Spain and will be priced in euros at a level which hopefully will get some interest. As mentioned earlier I am quite happy to hang on to the boat for the summer unless I do get an acceptable offer.

Thanks for your thoughts as well as all the other contributors.
 
Not in the market to sell my boat (also in Empuriabrava) but I've always thought that the best market would be British people wanting a British registered boat and berth (maybe throw in a years berthing) in a beautiful part of Spain. So sell the boat maybe via MB&Y but also (somehow) include the "dream" aspect of the Med
I would have thought that £60k to have a boat like yours (and I know it) kitted up in Spain with a lifestyle ready to go and with all your contacts and experience handed on would be a fantastic buy. I wish I had this opportunity when venturing out to the Med for the first time.
Best of luck and we are out in June and will be eating out in your daughters restaurant
Cheers Dave and Jan
 
DavidJ said:
Not in the market to sell my boat (also in Empuriabrava) but I've always thought that the best market would be British people wanting a British registered boat and berth (maybe throw in a years berthing) in a beautiful part of Spain. So sell the boat maybe via MB&Y but also (somehow) include the "dream" aspect of the Med
I would have thought that £60k to have a boat like yours (and I know it) kitted up in Spain with a lifestyle ready to go and with all your contacts and experience handed on would be a fantastic buy. I wish I had this opportunity when venturing out to the Med for the first time.
Best of luck and we are out in June and will be eating out in your daughters restaurant
Cheers Dave and Jan
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Thanks for your comments David. We are out on 7 June for the summer and hope we can meet up again.
Cheers
 
Some tough love there from the forumites. What are the brokers like where you are? I sold my bosses boat through a broker in Thailand (we are in Spain). We were offering a slightly different boat.

People on here banged on about photos, I agree that they are important and should be of good quality but at the end of the day people can see beyond a bit of clutter. Interesting one broker I used insisted on using photos of wrong interior of our boat despite me telling them 4 times and giving them photos. They didn't sell it.

Really it's all about the price, ignore UK brokers unless they will take into stock. Try Burton Waters or Boat.co.uk for such a deal. Advertise at your very best price plus 10% for a bit off wiggle room. If that price doesn't look attractive then stop advertising as people don't like a boat that's been for sale for years..

Only my opinion. Good luck
 
Lozzer said:
Some tough love there from the forumites. What are the brokers like where you are? I sold my bosses boat through a broker in Thailand (we are in Spain). We were offering a slightly different boat.

People on here banged on about photos, I agree that they are important and should be of good quality but at the end of the day people can see beyond a bit of clutter. Interesting one broker I used insisted on using photos of wrong interior of our boat despite me telling them 4 times and giving them photos. They didn't sell it.

Really it's all about the price, ignore UK brokers unless they will take into stock. Try Burton Waters or Boat.co.uk for such a deal. Advertise at your very best price plus 10% for a bit off wiggle room. If that price doesn't look attractive then stop advertising as people don't like a boat that's been for sale for years..

Only my opinion. Good luck
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Tough love is perhaps what I needed! Have now got a clearer idea of how to proceed from here.
DavidJ's comments re offering the mooring I rent is well worth following up as its in an ideal location and at only 3000 euro per year (inc Water ,electricity, toilets and showers very close by) will add some value. Having cleared all my gear off of the boat for the Easter boat show I can take some new photos of an uncluttered interior.

The broker I used in Empuriabrava for the boat show charged me 400 euro for the 2 weeks mooring and did'nt do much to promote the boat. They simply added 10% to the asking price as their commission.

Thanks for your response
 
That boat looks nice. Im UK boatless at the moment. If you are considering bringing it back and would like a 'trade' bid on the boat I would be interested. My bid would be based on the boat being 2 years older than the ones listed above plus some Bid / Offer spread.
 
MRC said:
That boat looks nice. Im UK boatless at the moment. If you are considering bringing it back and would like a 'trade' bid on the boat I would be interested. My bid would be based on the boat being 2 years older than the ones listed above plus some Bid / Offer spread.
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Thanks for your interest. Not to sure it would be worth my while to bring it back on an expression of "interest" only. If a purchaser made a sensible offer and the deal went through then of course I would arrange to ship it back to the UK.
 
Lozzer said:
People on here banged on about photos, I agree that they are important and should be of good quality but at the end of the day people can see beyond a bit of clutter.
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The problem is they can't. In fact it's far worse, they are sent subliminal messages without them even realising it.

People want to project themselves living the dream. They want to look at photos imagining it's their boat and they can't do that if Stan's underpants are lying on the bedroom floor and his Anusol is next to his toothbrush in the bathroom.

What the photos also say but people might not realise is this boat isn't for sale. The person is still using it, when you fly out to Spain to see it the owner is going to say something along the lines of, "to be honest I'm not that fussed if it doesn't sell because I'm happy using it." So they don't bother.

There's a big difference selling something for top dollar and selling a project. With the latter clutter is good because people think all they've got to do is run round with the Hoover, hire in a skip and the property is sorted when in fact there are far more serious problems than uncle Fester's stash of vintage porn strewn across the living room and his crusty armchair to dispose of.

I find the whole process of selling stuff quite fascinating.

As for bringing the boat over to the UK on the basis of an as yet undisclosed bid in the balls - keep living the dream and catching the fish would be my advice :)

Henry :)
 
henryf said:
The problem is they can't. In fact it's far worse, they are sent subliminal messages without them even realising it.

People want to project themselves living the dream. They want to look at photos imagining it's their boat and they can't do that if Stan's underpants are lying on the bedroom floor and his Anusol is next to his toothbrush in the bathroom.

What the photos also say but people might not realise is this boat isn't for sale. The person is still using it, when you fly out to Spain to see it the owner is going to say something along the lines of, "to be honest I'm not that fussed if it doesn't sell because I'm happy using it." So they don't bother.

There's a big difference selling something for top dollar and selling a project. With the latter clutter is good because people think all they've got to do is run round with the Hoover, hire in a skip and the property is sorted when in fact there are far more serious problems than uncle Fester's stash of vintage porn strewn across the living room and his crusty armchair to dispose of.

I find the whole process of selling stuff quite fascinating.

As for bringing the boat over to the UK on the basis of an as yet undisclosed bid in the balls - keep living the dream and catching the fish would be my advice :)

Henry :)
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I have to agree with that.

Buyers are a fickle breed. You have to sell them their dream not your own.
 
Thanks again for all the comments. I am now in a bit of a quandary... in order to "sell the dream" do I take photos of the boat kitted out with all my expensive tuna fishing gear or do I get my daughter to ask her attractive barmaids to don their bikinis and pose seductively?

Seriously though I am going to take better pictures now that all my clutter is removed and revamp the web site to present a boat seriously for sale.
 
mikemcgregor said:
Thanks again for all the comments. I am now in a bit of a quandary... in order to "sell the dream" do I take photos of the boat kitted out with all my expensive tuna fishing gear or do I get my daughter to ask her attractive barmaids to don their bikinis and pose seductively?

Seriously though I am going to take better pictures now that all my clutter is removed and revamp the web site to present a boat seriously for sale.
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Given the choice i know what i would rather look at! :o

In my view, pictures are critical, especially at this price level. I have lost count of the number of boats i have "looked" at online and passed over because the pictures are poor. They don't need to be done professionally, just frame them well and remove clutter. nice simple website which loads quickly and easy to navigate.

Good luck with the sale!
 
henryf said:
The problem is they can't. In fact it's far worse, they are sent subliminal messages without them even realising it.

People want to project themselves living the dream. They want to look at photos imagining it's their boat and they can't do that if Stan's underpants are lying on the bedroom floor and his Anusol is next to his toothbrush in the bathroom.

What the photos also say but people might not realise is this boat isn't for sale. The person is still using it, when you fly out to Spain to see it the owner is going to say something along the lines of, "to be honest I'm not that fussed if it doesn't sell because I'm happy using it." So they don't bother.

There's a big difference selling something for top dollar and selling a project. With the latter clutter is good because people think all they've got to do is run round with the Hoover, hire in a skip and the property is sorted when in fact there are far more serious problems than uncle Fester's stash of vintage porn strewn across the living room and his crusty armchair to dispose of.

I find the whole process of selling stuff quite fascinating.

As for bringing the boat over to the UK on the basis of an as yet undisclosed bid in the balls - keep living the dream and catching the fish would be my advice :)

Henry :)
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As an old manager of mine told me, you're selling the sizzle, not the steak. Sums it up well.
 
mikemcgregor said:
Thanks again for all the comments. I am now in a bit of a quandary... in order to "sell the dream" do I take photos of the boat kitted out with all my expensive tuna fishing gear or do I get my daughter to ask her attractive barmaids to don their bikinis and pose seductively?

Seriously though I am going to take better pictures now that all my clutter is removed and revamp the web site to present a boat seriously for sale.
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Neither.


Much as though I do like a nice amateur suntanned babe posing seductively for a would be photographer in her bikini the answer is people want to see your boat. By all means dress it up with some flowers or a cup of coffee and a croissant but be really careful, people earn a fortune dressing homes and boats with good reason, get it wrong and you're knackered. As for fishing gear I personally wouldn't bother because I suspect it will dominate the boat too much.

It's also worth saying that if you're going to dress the boat up the photography has to rise to the occasion.

Take the boat somewhere calm and scenic, photograph it from the water - do you have a friend with another boat. The interior is a bit harder. Ideally you're going to need a specialist lens and a good camera. I would possibly shoot the interior at night to avoid glare but it depends on what lighting the boat has and I would be using a tripod.

Just make the boat look as good as it can get. Clean every inch, polish it to within an inch of it's life and then keep it that way for when people come to view. It will need to be priced to sell. I'm not saying you have to give it away but don't price it on the basis people will bid you down to where you think it's worth. Price it at what you think it's worth. Not what a broker says it's worth, not what your mates say it's worth but what you'd pay if you were looking to buy based on what it on the local market. They may be worth more on the Hamble but yours is in Spain so price it based on Spanish or mainland European boats.

You did say one thing which caught my eye:

mikemcgregor said:
As mentioned earlier I am quite happy to hang on to the boat for the summer unless I do get an acceptable offer.
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When I hear that it does make me think that the boat isn't really for sale.


Please, please please don't take anything I've said personally. I'm odd and I say things as I think them rather than dress them up to be polite. Ultimately I want to help you sell the boat.


Henry :)
 
henryf said:
Neither.


Much as though I do like a nice amateur suntanned babe posing seductively for a would be photographer in her bikini the answer is people want to see your boat. By all means dress it up with some flowers or a cup of coffee and a croissant but be really careful, people earn a fortune dressing homes and boats with good reason, get it wrong and you're knackered. As for fishing gear I personally wouldn't bother because I suspect it will dominate the boat too much.

It's also worth saying that if you're going to dress the boat up the photography has to rise to the occasion.

Take the boat somewhere calm and scenic, photograph it from the water - do you have a friend with another boat. The interior is a bit harder. Ideally you're going to need a specialist lens and a good camera. I would possibly shoot the interior at night to avoid glare but it depends on what lighting the boat has and I would be using a tripod.

Just make the boat look as good as it can get. Clean every inch, polish it to within an inch of it's life and then keep it that way for when people come to view. It will need to be priced to sell. I'm not saying you have to give it away but don't price it on the basis people will bid you down to where you think it's worth. Price it at what you think it's worth. Not what a broker says it's worth, not what your mates say it's worth but what you'd pay if you were looking to buy based on what it on the local market. They may be worth more on the Hamble but yours is in Spain so price it based on Spanish or mainland European boats.

You did say one thing which caught my eye:



When I hear that it does make me think that the boat isn't really for sale.


Please, please please don't take anything I've said personally. I'm odd and I say things as I think them rather than dress them up to be polite. Ultimately I want to help you sell the boat.


Henry :)
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Please rest assured that I welcome all comments.

Perhaps I should explain why I am happy to hang on to it for the summer. This year is our 50th wedding anniversary and have friends and family coming out to our house over the summer and I want to be able to take them out in a boat. I had my eye on 3 other boats I would have been able to choose from if I had sold it at the Easter Boat show.

I also am heavily involved in tagging tuna for the World Wildlife Fund and have made commitments to help them again this summer. So whilst it would have been great to sell the boat before the season started I am pleased I am still able to use it.
 
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mikemcgregor said:
Please rest assured that I welcome all comments.

Perhaps I should explain why I am happy to hang on to it for the summer. This year is our 50th wedding anniversary and have friends and family coming out to our house over the summer and I want to be able to take them out in a boat. I had my eye on 3 other boats I would have been able to choose from if I had sold it at the Easter Boat show.

I also am heavily involved in tagging tuna for the World Wildlife Fund and have made commitments to help them again this summer. So whilst it would have been great to sell the boat before the season started I am pleased I am still able to use it.
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if you are still happy to hang on to it you will never sell it unless you get a silly offer
 
Juh
henryf said:
The problem is they can't. In fact it's far worse, they are sent subliminal messages without them even realising it.

People want to project themselves living the dream. They want to look at photos imagining it's their boat and they can't do that if Stan's underpants are lying on the bedroom floor and his Anusol is next to his toothbrush in the bathroom.

What the photos also say but people might not realise is this boat isn't for sale. The person is still using it, when you fly out to Spain to see it the owner is going to say something along the lines of, "to be honest I'm not that fussed if it doesn't sell because I'm happy using it." So they don't bother.

There's a big difference selling something for top dollar and selling a project. With the latter clutter is good because people think all they've got to do is run round with the Hoover, hire in a skip and the property is sorted when in fact there are far more serious problems than uncle Fester's stash of vintage porn strewn across the living room and his crusty armchair to dispose of.

I find the whole process of selling stuff quite fascinating.

As for bringing the boat over to the UK on the basis of an as yet undisclosed bid in the balls - keep living the dream and catching the fish would be my advice :)

Henry :)
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Absolutely brilliant Henry. You've given me such a chuckle :D:D
 
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