Boat not selling in Spain

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I have been trying to sell my Cranchi Pelican 32 Cruiser/Fisher in Spain for about a year now. Have tried ebay and only got "interest" from scammers.

My daughter helped me create a web site http://cranchipelican32.weebly.com/ with no luck so far.

I have lowered the price from £85000 to £70000.

I paid 400 euro to display it in the Easter Boat Show in Empuriabrava and only got fender kickers.

So now I am thinking of shipping it back to the UK as I have seen threads on here saying that some dealers are buying boats in Europe and shipping them back and still making a profit.

Does the team think it would be worth my while to pay to have it transported back to the UK (Norfolk) and perhaps lower the price even more? Say £65000?
 
two things.

Firstly, dont bring it back here. Cranchi are a tough sell in the UK, especially the lesser known models.

Secondly, UK brokers are buying in eurpope because they can take advantage of the euro rate. Yours is priced in Stirling so there is no advantage. Plus while you think youve reduced the price all you have done really is adjust it to cover the drop in the euro value - you are in a euro market so you'd better accept that.

And its too much money. You can buy this model in italy for €70,000 rather than £70,000

£85,000 was a joke - do you know what you can buy for that?????
 
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IMHO The website opening page looks good but some of the other photos need redoing without the clutter. In addition you need a lot more photos. For example where are the pics of the engines. Just not enough detail to draw me in.
 
+1 over priced in my book

I had a Cranchi 33 Endurance in the UK. Px in the end to Essex ( who sold it the following week) after 2 years with no interest.

Reduce the price, make it the cheapest and it may sell.
 
As Whitelighter says, brokers are buying brands that a popular with UK buyers at the Euro value to take advantage of the exchange rates. Not only that but they are making cheeky cash offers on the Euro price to take it off the sellers hands immediately, so they are getting really low Euro prices. From your position this equates to giving the boat away, but that's where the Europe market seems to be.
 
Whitelighter said:
two things.

Firstly, dont bring it back here. Cranchi are a tough sell in the UK, especially the lesser known models.

Secondly, UK brokers are buying in eurpope because they can take advantage of the euro rate. Yours is priced in Stirling so there is no advantage. Plus while you think youve reduced the price all you have done really is adjust it to cover the drop in the euro value - you are in a euro market so you'd better accept that.

And its too much money. You can buy this model in italy for €70,000 rather than £70,000

£85,000 was a joke - do you know what you can buy for that?????
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This time last year (when I first put it on the market) i was advised by a broker that 85K was reasonable.... so now I have dropped price to 70k and fully expect I will need to drop even further
 
Yes you are right about the photos. I did clear all my gear off the boat ready for the Easter sale so will take some new picture when I go out in June
 
Thanks for advice. The "upholstery" are throws that swmbo put on to protect coverings. Now all cleared from boat.

Was advised by local broker last year that 85k was reasonable.
 
Priced and marketed correctly it should sell.

If you can't sell a fast sport/fishing/weekend boat in the idyllic Med I doubt you'll have much luck in Norfolk.

Cleaning it up(sell the dream)and realistic pricing should do the trick, imho.
 
Mike, it's all been said, poor photos showing personal possessions, nowhere near enough photos and overpriced. Those are the main reasons it hasn't sold or even had much buyer interest.
 
I have had my Cranchi 48 Flybridge up for sale for over a year as well and had a few viewings but nothing serious.
Even had 2 offers that I acccepted only to find they charnged there mind when they ran it by the wife!
Mine was the cheapest in the world and still not getting any serious offers even when the broker reduced it even further!
I have now tried ebay and getting some more enquires but all the boats I would like to buy are the same nothing is selling in the MED at all.
I think if you listed it for £50k you would still not get it sold, I did get told if I brought it the UK it would go for more money but hate the thought of boating in the cold weather and rain!
 
I have no idea on price but totally agree on the photos. Even the main shot - I don't want to see people clambering all over the boat. I want to see a nice crisp shot of it as per manufacturers advertising blurb. The second shot in on your gallery is a vastly superior image assuming it's yours and of the actual boat for sale.

When you re-photograph it take off the Daiwa sticker from under the BBQ / Sink. The thought of you gutting stinky fish on my nice clean BBQ doesn't bear thinking about :) Ditto the photo of you? with a straining fishing rod. Fishing people know it's a fishing boat, non fishing people don't need to know.

Then it's just a case of taking lots of good photos. If you can't be bothered to clean the boat and take some decent pictures over the course of a year I can't be bothered to travel out to see it. A serious buyer will have a choice of far better presented boats really for sale. You are competing with dealers who prep them and sell them with a warranty.

If you think you will have to drop the price then do it in the advert. Better to advertise it at true value and have a few people showing interest. Brokers probably aren't the best people to use for valuations. They will just give you a big number to hook you in then worry about selling it later.

Good luck

Henry :)
 
henryf said:
Brokers probably aren't the best people to use for valuations. They will just give you a big number to hook you in then worry about selling it later.
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Totally agree. To raise money for our next boat I am selling things we don't need any more. Not boats, other things.
ITEM 1 - Collector's item. Broker/dealer who is a friend advised me it was worth £55k. Had serious interest from a buyer who offered £40k. Turned the offer down. Nobody else interested. Went back to the broker who now says offer it at £39,999 :disgust:
ITEM 2 - Land Rover Defender, vgc., low miles. Looked at adverts to guess at price. Advertised it widely at £12950. No offers. Reduced the price to £11,950. No offers. Put it on the forecourt of local dealer on commission. He advised ask £10k. Been there 2 months now. No offers.:confused:

I suspect that if every boat on the market was priced at £1000 for a month, at the end of that month there would still be a lot of boats left unsold because there seem to be a heck of a lot more boats for sale than there are people who want to buy boats.
 
TwoHooter said:
Totally agree. To raise money for our next boat I am selling things we don't need any more. Not boats, other things.
ITEM 1 - Collector's item. Broker/dealer who is a friend advised me it was worth £55k. Had serious interest from a buyer who offered £40k. Turned the offer down. Nobody else interested. Went back to the broker who now says offer it at £39,999 :disgust:
ITEM 2 - Land Rover Defender, vgc., low miles. Looked at adverts to guess at price. Advertised it widely at £12950. No offers. Reduced the price to £11,950. No offers. Put it on the forecourt of local dealer on commission. He advised ask £10k. Been there 2 months now. No offers.:confused:

I suspect that if every boat on the market was priced at £1000 for a month, at the end of that month there would still be a lot of boats left unsold because there seem to be a heck of a lot more boats for sale than there are people who want to buy boats.
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You should advertise your landy on ukgser.com, they seem to love them there.
 
I've also had my boat for sale for 1 year in Barcelona had 2 serious offers. One arranging survey and sea trial, only to be told they've had 2nd thoughts. Now with the euro I'm aware that it's pretty pricey compared to euro priced boats, therefore tough decision but will probably remove it off the market for the time being. But and it is a big but nobody knows how the pound will fare after the general election maybe the euro will strengthen, and everything will level up.
As for moving it to UK it may sell better at the moment but who knows.
 
Spoke to a UK broker late this afternoon. He said a more realistic price for the Cranchi would be around £60000. Also thinks it would be not the sort of boat for the UK weather!

Must admit I am beginning to think I will need to bite the bullet and reduce price even more. It also seems not a good idea to ship it back to UK
Not too bothered if I keep it for another summer as the Tuna fishing season starts in a few weeks!
 
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