Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

longjohnsilver said:
That's a decent range. Should get you places without too much concern.

I looked for a window in your crew cabin pics, just assumed it wasn't shown. Is there any reason it's not standard? A trash compactor would be very useful; we all know what a pain it can be dealing with accumulated rubbish. That's got me thinking about one on Eos, they seem to be pretty standard on most larger US boats.
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Fairlines are built low (to get under a road bridge) compared with say sunseeker. The floor of the accomm deck is well below the chines and you can see the floor sloping up at the edges of the master cabin in pics above. This does make for nice sleek profile and keeps weight low too. The crew cabin is very carefully taken right down nearly to keel level and so windows would be quite close to the waterline. That, added to a Fairline/general builder view that crew cabins are second class probably led to there being no window! All that said, there is a big window in the transom door, and many owners specify all open plan layout in the crew space, hence the window would serve all areas. It's arguably my fault that I've specified a closed crew cabin and separate utility space so creating a windowless cabin. Anyway, I think (but open to ideas...) I'm going to put the window in the transom, in the riser to the first step, immediately below the transom gate on the starboard side. That's a good position on the inside too. I reckon I can get a 10x4inch kinda thing, Lewmar hatch with white frame, probably. Edit: this pic shows the location I'm thinking of
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Trash compactor used to be standard on this boat but the best maker, Broan, stopped making the compact one that fitted. You now have to get one the full height of a kitchen worktop and 15inch wide. Very nice machines if you can fit them. Broan is widely regarded as the best make
 
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Interesting J, re compactors, just been through this process for an new build but could not source any Broan available in the EU in 220/50 hz , all the suppliers we tried said the 220v model was discontinued. If you have a source would be tickled pink to know :-) ta
 
Nautical said:
Interesting J, re compactors, just been through this process for an new build but could not source any Broan available in the EU in 220/50 hz , all the suppliers we tried said the 220v model was discontinued. If you have a source would be tickled pink to know :-) ta
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Hmmm. Didn't know that T, but it seems you are right. Likewise the insinkerator model and the whirlpool are also not available. One supplier says there will be a new EU model early 2011 and is calling me back (dunno if broan or another make) and meantime this might fit nicely on an ORY (the stainless steel, 50cm wide, under counter model)
 
jfm, just spent the last 45 minutes updating myself on your boats build, stunning is all I can say. Engine room, galley, & everything really really breathtaking. I read that you say there are things that you would already change if you were doing it again, but of course you would, that's what makes life interesting!
 
JFM - been watching this thread with interest from day 1. It's been great to see the boat coming together through the various stages and to see the customisations you've had done. I particularly like the Bisazza tiles.... Stunning boat.
 
sarabande said:
umm, jfm, any escape routes or hatches from the crew cabin ?
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Yup. The main crew cab door is the big lift up door to the transom. Then there is a hatch in the ceiling of the crew cabin, which takes you up to the aft deck behind the patio doors, and there are click down steps in the wall of the crew cabin to get you up through this hatch. Third, you can go forward from crew cab to engine room, where there is another emergency escape hatch in the ceiling

I'm planning to install a fancy smoke/heat detector system with lots of sensors, all wired back to a control panel that tellls me exactly which sensor has tripped the alarm, so as not to have to go looking for the fire if there is one. I need to research this some more. I think Tyco do one but I don't have the spec yet.
 
Thanks for all the kind words. I am very pleased with the boat and the whole process of working with Fairline on it has been a pleasure - they're a very nice team

But talking of fire, the techies might be interested in this. See the pic below - the horzontal slab things bolted to the e/room ceiling? Two each side. They are louvred valves, kinda 600mm x 600, and they are connected to the sea-fire system and other things. The louvres move with elec motors and they shut off the air entry/exit fro the e/r totally, in the case of a fire. That means the FM200 extinguishant stays put in the e/r, rather than being blown out by a wind through the vents. That should mean the fire is suffocated asap. These are an extra specced by me, not part of the standard spec, but nice to have (and I'm a bit OCD about fire prevention)

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If you need any window/hatch for the crew cabin it might be worth talking to Trend www.trendmarine.com they will be able to custom make whatever you need and im sure they would have made the rest of the boats windows so then they will all match.
 
sarabande said:
I knew that question was supererogatory !
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:-) Well for the crew cabin in this case yes, but it is a concern for the rest of the boat. Boats in general, not just mine. The fwd cabin has hatches to the deck but the other cabins have only one exit and it's quite a walk to the outside if the air is full of burning-GRP smoke. I don't think there's any solution other than smoke alarms, and being OCD about not starting a fire to begin with. That includes being very fussy about any electrical work on the boat imho.
 
grumpy_o_g said:
A really dumb question no doubt but where exactly do the main engines get their air from?
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Those square vents in the coachroof sides, at shin level. See pic about a dozen posts above - you can just see them, about 2-3m along the side deck, just before the saloon windows start
 
aquapower said:
If you need any window/hatch for the crew cabin it might be worth talking to Trend www.trendmarine.com they will be able to custom make whatever you need and im sure they would have made the rest of the boats windows so then they will all match.
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Thanks Tom, I'll try them. Main issue is the transom slopes forward so if the window is recessed it will allow a puddle to form. I need a no-puddle hatch, like in the coachroof of sailing yachts
 
j, all lookingh fab, those closery slat jobs are the business in case of fire, just check the action time to close when the system fires, I have seen new yacht with similar and 12 seconds to close, 12 seconds doesn't sound a lot but you can loose 50% of your retardant through the ventilation in 12 seconds especially if they are fan assisted. Other thing to consider maybe if not already thought of is having some alarm/alert a few seconds before the auto fire system triggers, only perhaps a few seconds, just enough to let anyone in the machinery space escape before it all goes whooosh. that retardant stuff will kill you faster than a bullet in the head.
 
Nautical said:
j, all lookingh fab, those closery slat jobs are the business in case of fire, just check the action time to close when the system fires, I have seen new yacht with similar and 12 seconds to close, 12 seconds doesn't sound a lot but you can loose 50% of your retardant through the ventilation in 12 seconds especially if they are fan assisted. Other thing to consider maybe if not already thought of is having some alarm/alert a few seconds before the auto fire system triggers, only perhaps a few seconds, just enough to let anyone in the machinery space escape before it all goes whooosh. that retardant stuff will kill you faster than a bullet in the head.
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Thanks T. The sea fire system shuts off the ventilation fan motors at the same time as shutting the louvres and firing the FM200. Or it might even sequence those actions to allow the fans to stop, before squirting the FM200, I'm not sure. I'll look into it a bit more. Your idea of a 15second "get out" hooter makes sense. I'm acutely aware that an accidental FM200 dump would be like a bullet in the head, and with all the stab hydraulics, bigger gensets, double PTOs, water maker and other options, this engine room is now quite tight for space, much tighter than a standard s78. If you are working on the portside gen it takes quite a while to get over the main engine and out of the door. Food for thought, thanks
 
jfm said:
Thanks T. The sea fire system shuts off the ventilation fan motors at the same time as shutting the louvres and firing the FM200. Or it might even sequence those actions to allow the fans to stop, before squirting the FM200, I'm not sure. I'll look into it a bit more. Your idea of a 15second "get out" hooter makes sense. I'm acutely aware that an accidental FM200 dump would be like a bullet in the head, and with all the stab hydraulics, bigger gensets, double PTOs, water maker and other options, this engine room is now quite tight for space, much tighter than a standard s78. If you are working on the portside gen it takes quite a while to get over the main engine and out of the door. Food for thought, thanks
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Perhaps something that prevents the FM200 firing if the engine room door isn't closed ? Might even be fitted already.
 
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