Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

DTIM said:
John,
Glad the sale and handover went well. If the new owners are keeping the name when do we get get clues to the new name? If only in mould in Sept I take it she probably will not make LIBS?
Dave
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Legally the old boat was called Match Q becuase registry wouldn't allow "Match" due to fact there is already a registered boat called "Match One" and they considered the "One" to be a number not a word despite my protestations to the contrary

I'd like to keep the name so I'll likely just call the new boat "Match P" or something. The letter was always in a tiny font on the transom anyway. There is no risk of confusion if one boat is in Norway/Sweden and other is in the Med. On here I'll call it Match2

She definitely wont make LIBS. They wanted to have my boat at LIBS but there isn't enough time for what is going to be quite a complex build - more complex than Match1. (List of mods to be explained on a new thread). I'll do some South coast UK crusing March-May and Essex might show it at one of their mini boat shows, and it may well do Cannes show 2013. I hope to be able to welcome plenty of forum people on board next year somehow
 
Hurricane said:
Good luck with the new build - I'm sure we will all get to hear about it!!!

BTW
I nearly added a Jetski to our toys this year but the thought of kids and friends crashing into JW finally put the idea out of my mind.
At least a Rib has rubber tubes to cushion any impact.
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I had a new seadoo on Match for a week before handover to new owners. Big heavy beasts they are...! Much bigger than you think from seeing them in brochures and stuff. I'll prob have a 2nd hand one for sale end of next summer with 3 hours on the clock!
 
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I hope all goes well with the new arrangements and if, while you are boatless, you fancy an outing in a smallish, rufty-tufty craft in the rubbish weather on the UK south coast, do give me a call. You will always be welcome.
 
As the bowl of petunias said "oh no not again" :D
I'm reckon Match 2 should be heavily subsidised by fairline for all the publicity you have given them :rolleyes:
Good luck to you, I'm sure she will be great, as discussed in London, you will need to retire when your about 90 at this rate.:eek:
 
JMF, thanks for the update. And looking fwd to the new thread. Have you found a solution to the bow anchor vision thingy? If not will get de Montford Uni on the case.
 
benjenbav said:
I hope all goes well with the new arrangements and if, while you are boatless, you fancy an outing in a smallish, rufty-tufty craft in the rubbish weather on the UK south coast, do give me a call. You will always be welcome.
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Thanks. Might take you up! I love Lymington anyway

Actually I'm surviving nicely on borrowed boats for now. Typing this from holiday inn marseille airport. Collecting a friend's targa 50 off the lorry tomorrow and taking it to antibes with him (yet another northern europe guy lured down here by the fab cruising and food - you know it makes sense!). Then on sunday I'm crewing on Match, LOL - Essex Boatyards chief boat driver is in antibes to take it to genoa for the ship to scandinavia but has no crew so he called me :-) So in one weekend I will do Port Napolean in the Camargue to Genoa. Then next Thursday I'm borrowing A+K's fab fab fab sq58 (a 2009, direct sistership to my old braveheart, see www.wavecharter.com) and taking it to Corsica for a few days. Rather like occasional smokers who smoke "OPs", I'm not actually sure there is any need to own a boat... :-)
 
rafiki_ said:
JMF, thanks for the update. And looking fwd to the new thread. Have you found a solution to the bow anchor vision thingy? If not will get de Montford Uni on the case.
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Yup, at least i think so. current thinking (I'll expand on the other yet to be started thread) is to extend the existing centreline bow fairlead forwards 150mm, which I was going to do anyway becuase I want a bow roller to deploy my heavy kedge so I can use it with the existing windlass to create a poor man's version of MYAG's fab 2-anchor set up. That will produce a horizontal plane soffit surface under the stainless steel fairlead fabrication, and I'm thinking of planting a hemisphere shaped w/proof camera right on that suface. I'll hide all the wiring with a bit of clever s/s work and perhaps that is job done. I'll make the video plugs accessible in the roof of the anchor locker so I can just swap the camera out if it gets bashed and needs replacing

I have ordered a garmin camera and a cheapie ebay video screen and will try it mocked up first to see how the field of view looks

Attached pic gives some idea. You can just make out the U section fairlead right on the boat's nose - that's the bit I'll extend forward so creating the soffit surface underneath it. Because of the angle of the stem of the boat the camera would be about 400mm in front of the chain roller so the view might be ok. Anyway, I'll put drawings/dims/screenshots up on t'other thread to collect ideas

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rafiki_ said:
Have you found a solution to the bow anchor vision thingy?
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I'm obviously missing something, because even after jfm reply to your question I still can't see where the problem is.
Surely you're not talking of some trick for recovering the anchor from the helm without going to the bow and look at it directly?
I'd never consider doing that!
 
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I'm definitely talking about recovering the anchor from the flyridge helm [/philistine!] and checking for chain angle, weed, twistedness, nicely parked etc, using the camera. I also monitor the goings on and chain position using the new zealand autoanchor which imho is a fab bit of kit and has proved very reliable in my experience

Sure, a crew person has to go forward to clip on the safety chain before I speed up but they can be usefully occupied doing something else while I'm actually hauling up the anchor

All very much imho

Incidentally the camera idea was Hurricane's first of all iirc
 
Well, each to their own.
Personally, I leave someone else (usually swmbo) at the helm and go to the bow myself, 'cause while recovering the anchor that's the position where I want to be.
It's only from there that I can easily tell the helmsman (/woman) how to maneuver in order to facilitate the anchor recover.
I don't think any bow camera could be good enough to show you where the chain is laying on the bottom.
The only thing I would consider, which could be useful when singlehanded, is a throttle remote control: much better to go to the bow anyway, and control the engines from there, than the other way round.
All imho, as always.
 
John, this sounds like a plan. I was thinking along the lines of sensors at strategic points, warning at say 5,4,3,2,1 metres as the chain is recovered. I'm not sure if this is what you would like though.
 
jfm said:
I'm definitely talking about recovering the anchor from the flyridge helm [/philistine!] and checking for chain angle, weed, twistedness, nicely parked etc, using the camera. I also monitor the goings on and chain position using the new zealand autoanchor which imho is a fab bit of kit and has proved very reliable in my experience

Sure, a crew person has to go forward to clip on the safety chain before I speed up but they can be usefully occupied doing something else while I'm actually hauling up the anchor

All very much imho

Incidentally the camera idea was Hurricane's first of all iirc
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Actually, it was the Princess delivery skipper who suggested it.
He couldn't understand why people wanted a video of their engines when a camera over the anchor would be way more useful.

The big issue when ordering the new boat would be to have good electrical conduit and fixing for the camera put in at an early stage.
I wouldnt use a wireless camera - wired is always better quality.

In fact, I wouldn't be allowed to put a camera on the front of ours, the bow is SWMBO's terratory - I'm not allowed there.
 
Hurricane said:
Actually, it was the Princess delivery skipper who suggested it.
He couldn't understand why people wanted a video of their engines when a camera over the anchor would be way more useful.
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Mmmm... He understands that you can't stay in the e/r while cruising (not all the time, anyway), but you can stay on the bow while anchoring, or doesn't he? :confused:
 
Why not a solenoid operated bolt to secure the anchor when retrieved? (rather than a safety clip)

Secondly if you are serious about joining the luddite forum i'm sure I have a NASA RDF unit in the garage... might be a bit dusty tho!
 
Congratulations, jfm. Will this be all the ideas you developed for Match + a few enhancements or a different boat altogether? How many of your design changes did Fairline adopt for subsequent 78's after yours? Anyway, I hope you enjoy the development process on the new 78 as much as you did the first one
 
rafiki_ said:
John, this sounds like a plan. I was thinking along the lines of sensors at strategic points, warning at say 5,4,3,2,1 metres as the chain is recovered. I'm not sure if this is what you would like though.
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Yup that's good set up, though already on the marlet. I had on Match a combined winch control panel with chain counter (proximity switch measures rotations of the gypsy) that resolves ot 0.1m and works well, with digi read out on the dashboards and a programmable bleep which is set at 1.5m. Very nice system, been 100pc reliable, and I will have same on new boat. Made by autoanchor in NZ, though rebadged as Lewmar in UK
 
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Congratulations, jfm. Will this be all the ideas you developed for Match + a few enhancements or a different boat altogether? How many of your design changes did Fairline adopt for subsequent 78's after yours? Anyway, I hope you enjoy the development process on the new 78 as much as you did the first one
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Somewhere in between mike. Match2 has about 150 lines of cutomisations on the spreadheet though some are tiny details. Lots of the things on Match1 will be repeated on Match2: galley layout, saloon seating, twin cabins sliding beds to convert to doubles, proper laundry, etc. Some things i asked for last year on Match 2 have already been made standard spec like getting rid of the stupid hidden door to the day head and squaring off (eliminating curves) in the lobby area - see the boat at SIBS hull87, which will have these features and almost zero curves. Other details like my black internal doors fascias became standard immediately after Match1 was built, and so on. No-one has ever ordered my internal staircase though, even though I love it and will have same on Match 2, though everyone who came on Match1 to buy her loved it - I can't figure this one out! Several people have ordered the extra fuel tank and 3 or 4 s78s after Match1 have this. Also they have built 4 more boats with sleipner fin stabs since Match plus one boat has had them retrofitted by Osmotech (boat is now in Thailand, hull 73), and Match2 will have them. Lots of my new customisations are still in discussion with Fairline engineers so not settled yet, and some affect external appearance somewhat. Will be decided soon and I'll list on the new thread. Fairline have an all-new flybridge layout since hull 78 and I will have this but a few of the mouldings will be significantly changed in the helm area. Match 2 will have the Cat C32 ACERT 1622hp engines and 2 x 27kva 3.3litre gensets

To give some context on numbers, the boat is selling well. Match1 was hull 70, handed over to me in Jan. Match2 will be hull 92, handed over March 2013. Many builders would die for such a run rate

I'll start a new thread soon
 
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