Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

Well sorry jfm but I'm going to disagree with everyone here. Seeing these final build pics has turned me right off and I reckon it's an awful boat.

Therefore I suggest you flog it off cheap and have a good look round at LIBS and order something new for 2011 and of course post a whole new "boat in build" thread"

Well the previous Sq58 didn't last too long so I guess the 78 will be out the door pretty sharpish too:)
 
Nice set up. Are both anchors 80kg?

Na, had to watch the weight up front. Main is 80kg with 160m of 12mm, secondary is 50kg with 120m of 12mm. Eastern Med is similar to Croatia with some very deep anchorages and I have been caught out too many times before, so this time I went ott!
 
I am not a lover of internal stairs as I always thought they took up unnecessary room (I never charter) but from these pics your clever layout seems to work well.

Ah! So you prove that some customers don't want the stairs! Have you ever had a boat with 2x stairs? Maybe you don't know what you're missing?! It's not a charter thing, it's more a benefit when you have a full boat and a chef/stewardess team serving/clearing big meals on the flybridge, and also when you are owner/driving it is much easier to nip down from the helm for a cuppa tea or whatever you need via stairs straight to the lower helm/galley. All very much imho though!

Were you restricted somehow in the size of anchor? Even upping the anchor to 50kgs seems a bit light to me, I would have said 60-70kgs was more suited, how much chain do you have?

Yes. And in answer to the other posts on this, Fairline do cut it fine on anchor sizes, which is a shame. 50kg fitted easily so I went for that. It will of course be fine 99% of the time, and when weather gets awkward I'd be awake anyway on keen anchor watch. 50kg is in fact the "correct" size from the MCA's tables, but I'd prefer 70 or so, as the MCA are a bit solentish and not Bora-ish imho. I have 100m of 12mm chain so that'll help. But yes overall it's a shame not to have 70kg, but ho hum these are the compromises you make when you buy a boat!

are the actuator/ram assy's in watertight compartments under the bathroom cabinet? If not, is there room to accomodate this?

No they're not in watertight compartments. I would think that a bit OTT for this class of boat, and it would eat up precious space. Risk of a major non-fixable hole caused by the stabs is tiny. Do you have the actuators in w'tight comps on the Y80?
 
Na, had to watch the weight up front. Main is 80kg with 160m of 12mm, secondary is 50kg with 120m of 12mm. Eastern Med is similar to Croatia with some very deep anchorages and I have been caught out too many times before, so this time I went ott!

Wow that's very nice gear MYAG!
 
two is always better than one.

Your anchoring gear is awesome MYAG so I'm not criticising but I'd generally prefer one. Reason is that with boat movement there are many times when one of the two is doing all/most of the work, so each one of the two needs to be big enough to hold the boat anyway, and when the weather is bad enough that you're worried about slipping this size of pick you might want to get the hell out of there in a hurry and one is easier to retrieve with no risk of tangling. Just imho
 
Weird door indeed, though. Does the center handle on the crew area side close all the three handles on the e/r side? Because if not...

Not weird. There is a linkage mechanism inside the door, so all three catches move using the handle on either side of the door. Nice job

Another question, is it normal that the s/s fender profile doesn't follow the hull up completely, to the bow and also astern? I know it wouldn't be of much use in those areas, but (possibly) nice?

It's just a styling thing that FL use on several models now. Sq55 and 65 i think, and maybe the new Targa 58. I think it looks nice but each to their own :-) Quite tricky to do as it involves hand-finishing the GRP hull/deck joint in these locations

Oh, and re. the Italian fabrics, were they sourced by Fiorete by chance? If so, it doesn't get any better and you'll surely won't regret the cost.

They came from a mill/manufacturer called (I think) Graziano. 600 thread count stuff. The reason they're hard to source is that not many people do 3m wide fabric in 600 thread count with a pattern, and I didn't want plain fabrics on the bed covers.
 
The boat was launched yesterday at 8.30, woohoo. I wasn't there but Fairline sent me pics. It's the one on the right. The boat on the left is the previous build, hull #69
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Na, had to watch the weight up front. Main is 80kg with 160m of 12mm, secondary is 50kg with 120m of 12mm. Eastern Med is similar to Croatia with some very deep anchorages and I have been caught out too many times before, so this time I went ott!

Wow thats some serious weight of metal you've got there. By my reckoning you've got nearly a tonne of iron sitting in your bow locker. Not sure downsizing the kedge to 50kg makes much difference to the overall weight but I bet you will sleep well at anchor:)
 
Makes me wonder why manufacturers don’t make more of their build procedures in their literature, by way of pictures and a story board along these lines. It is far more informative than the stock brochure which just shows a boat moored in an anonymous bay in the med with a bikini clad model on the foredeck. I can think of better places to get pics of semi-naked ladies if I were that way inclined...

Like many on this forum, I have been deeply impressed with Fairline's professionalism and engineering ability. This makes me want to buy into the Fairline product (albeit a little one), something none of their advertising or boat show 'approach' has ever done.
 
Makes me wonder why manufacturers don’t make more of their build procedures in their literature, by way of pictures and a story board along these lines. It is far more informative than the stock brochure which just shows a boat moored in an anonymous bay in the med with a bikini clad model on the foredeck. I can think of better places to get pics of semi-naked ladies if I were that way inclined...

Like many on this forum, I have been deeply impressed with Fairline's professionalism and engineering ability. This makes me want to buy into the Fairline product (albeit a little one), something none of their advertising or boat show 'approach' has ever done.


Those are quite profound words Mike and you make a great point there. I completely agree, and one thing this thread has taught me is that loads of boat owners, rather than just a handful of geeks, are interested in what's behind the scenes in a boat. Fairline read this so they'll read your last sentence with great interest I'm sure
 
Those are quite profound words Mike and you make a great point there. I completely agree, and one thing this thread has taught me is that loads of boat owners, rather than just a handful of geeks, are interested in what's behind the scenes in a boat. Fairline read this so they'll read your last sentence with great interest I'm sure

Fairline did a couple of great articles with MBY a few months back which went into the design and build process of the Targa 58? (I think). I thought those were pre-empting just these sorts of comment and that they were the way to go in order to build customer demand through a demonstration of confidence and pride in what they were doing and why they were doing it.
 
Ah! So you prove that some customers don't want the stairs! Have you ever had a boat with 2x stairs? Maybe you don't know what you're missing?! It's not a charter thing, it's more a benefit when you have a full boat and a chef/stewardess team serving/clearing big meals on the flybridge, and also when you are owner/driving it is much easier to nip down from the helm for a cuppa tea or whatever you need via stairs straight to the lower helm/galley. All very much imho though!

No, never had a boat with internal stairs and I would agree with what you have said here based on your usage scenario. I guess that is the crux here, it's how you use your boat .........

No they're not in watertight compartments. I would think that a bit OTT for this class of boat, and it would eat up precious space. Risk of a major non-fixable hole caused by the stabs is tiny. Do you have the actuators in w'tight comps on the Y80?

Yes, built in standard on all SS with stabs afaik.

I don't think it is OTT for a boat big enough for stabs to have WComp's because it is not a big deal to build them in. It really does not take up much space at all, you would be very limited to put anything where that space is anyway as you will need to have access to the stabs, so I see it as free space. The compartment does not have to be much bigger than the assy itself, which for your stabs being the smallest profile on the market would be minimal, so no excuse for Fairline imho.

Pics showing the watertight compartment that will house the stab actuator/ram assy's, full of garden hose prior to testing. 2nd pic showing finished access panel from master cabin floor.
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.........but I'd generally prefer one. Reason is that with boat movement there are many times when one of the two is doing all/most of the work, so each one of the two needs to be big enough to hold the boat anyway, and when the weather is bad enough that you're worried about slipping this size of pick you might want to get the hell out of there in a hurry and one is easier to retrieve with no risk of tangling. Just imho

I agree. I wouldn't be out in weather that made me feel I needed two picks out to fight the elements. But thats not why I have two, although the option to deploy both at the same time is always there. My reason of choice was purely dual redundancy.
 
Ah thanks for those pics MYAG. Yes you are right, the w'tight comp can be done without burning up any space. Actually it would be tricky for FL because the 78 is built lower than your Y80 so they would struggle to build those compartments in the way s/s have done, but it is food for thought. yours looks a very pukka job

While looking at your pics I was intrigued that s/s use no internal mouldings and build the whole interior in sheets/joists/planks (scuse the lack of nautical terms!). Also, what is the pale yellow stuff under the m/cabin floor level? All very nice stuff anyway
 
I am absolutely amazed by this build and how she looks in the water. Hope you have some great times aboard her!
 
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