Boat in build - little Viking 20.

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Having been encouraged by a few members in jfm's long running thread, here's a few pics on our Viking 20 in build and a short story of how we got to where we are today.

Started out on a used Fairline Mirage aft cabin and within two years had progressed to a used Fairline 40. Had the 40 for another two years and then sold her/it due to personal financial reasons. From April 2006 to July 2011 we were boatless but as funds now permitted, my wife said "let's get another boat". Along came a Mayland Maestro on a trailer (no more mooring fees for me thank you) which we were all prepared to continue using this year.

I came in from work one night and wife was looking at a used 6 month old Viking 215. "This would suit us and no more "camping" on the rivers". It had all the things we hadn't got on the Mayland - hot water, gas hob/oven/grill, heating shore power and, most importantly, 6' headroom in the cabin and a heads we could shower in. It had everything we wanted in a boat for one or two weeks away - somewhere to relax, sleep, shower cook and drink and something that we intended to keep for a few years. However, the only proviso was that it would need to be trailed behind our current car.

I rang Viking Mouldings and spoke to Wayne Goodwin to ask about the weight of the 215. I got an answer which pleased me but then Wayne asked how much our budget was. "I could build you a new one for not much more than the used one to a similar or better spec". He'd thrown the bait out and we'd bitten. We really didn't need the extended bathing platform of the 215 (more length to trail) so a week later we went to see a Viking 20 at St.Ives, Cambs on March 10th, worked out what we wanted and did the deal, in fact a very, very good deal, with Viking direct. No middle man or dealer, so big savings were made.

We thought we'd covered everything we could possibly wish for on the 10th but, as those of you that have had a new build, ideas and changes keep cropping up. The build (mouldings) actually started around the end of March but by the time we got to see the boat on 5th April, the hull and topsides had been married up that's as far as we've got with the pics.

Between doing the deal and today, we've had numerous conversations with Wayne and sent dozens of e-mails (Viking are 80 miles away) regarding changes, extras and tweaks. Viking have remained patient throughout (or so they tell me) and it's nice to be able to customise a boat to say "it's ours". It may only be 20' but it's our baby and the first (and probably last) new boat we've ever had.

The Viking 20 comes as standard with H&C water, hob/oven/grill, cassette loo and a Mariner 15 on the back. Then we started to add the extras that would make it suitable for our intended cruising, both at the deposit stage and throughout the build - Honda 20 with power tilt, Propex two outlet heating, shore power and ring main, Waeco fridge, choice of upholstery fabric and colour, carpet colour, hull carpet lining colour, cockpit cushion colour, firmer seat/bed foam throughout, canvas canopy with modified openings and s/s hoops in lieu of PVC and ally hoops, 2 x 110ah batteries in lieu of 2 x 85ah, twin horn, bow roller, mid ships cleats, co-pilot seat and pedestal, both cockpit seats to have folding backs, additional shelving in cabin, 19" LCD TV & portable satellite dish, JVC CD/radio and four speakers (2 in cockpit, two in cabin) with aux in for MP3 player, additional under seat cockpit mood lighting, 6 x double satin finish 240v sockets, galley hob and sink moved 12" to left in worktop, stable cockpit door in lieu of one piece door to open inwards, mirror in cabin, cleats on bow to replace fairleads, footrest/storage box in front of co-pilot, second screen wiper, uprated battery isolator switch, Faria tacho and engine hours gauges, 3 x 12 sockets, 2 x stainless/teak bathing platforms either side of OB, s/s hoop around OB to enable stern to mooring, doors underneath v-berths (saves having to dive in from the top under the cushions), choice of colour for hull graphics, sign writing on bow and transom, full Anchor fender package (2" bigger than standard), 4 x 10m Marlow blue Dock lines, U-bolts on transom for lashing to trailer, additional U-bolt on bow, table socket in cockpit, opening window in starboard window assembly over galley (special from Sea glaze), tinted windows all roiund, additional handrails on outside of cockpit, Teleflex "Como" steering wheel.

And I think that's all the bits/changes for now :rolleyes:. The build is now cracking on with the carpenters doing the woodwork as I type.

This build may not be on a grand scale but it goes to show how good British manufacturing, customer service and quality can be at the affordable lower end of the market. OK, the woodwork isn't rosewood and the out of site finish isn't on par with the big UK boat builders. But at the end of the day, it's our boat and it's what we want at this moment in time.

Now some well deserved praise for Viking Mouldings - nothing's been too much trouble, they listen on the phone and understand what the customer wants and have done lots of things at no cost to us. Brilliant service and we'd highly recommend them to anyone wanting a bespoke river cruiser, be it like our 20 footer or any of their range up to 28 feet. Thanks guys :):):).

Next pics will be on or after 28th April (our next visit) and we're hoping to see a near completed boat.

Thanks for reading and happy boating to you all.
 
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Fabulous post. Our very first boat was a Viking 20, we loved that boat and had a fabulous summer aboard her on the river Ouse. We were Ely based. We then had a V26 followed by a Nimbus 3003, Fairline Targa 39 and now a sailing yacht, Nauticat 39. But it all began with our V20 on the Ouse at ely. I'm sure you'll have great fun aboard her. It always seems to me that the amount of fun had aboard a boat is in inverse proportion to her LOA.

Rob
 
Must keep a watch on this one, i love the builds and restorations:D From the description it sounds hard to believe you can live comfortably on her for any length of time considering its 20'. Look forward to seeing more of the internal work being a trade myself:eek:

Without doing a search, is this a river boat no matter what engine? sounds like a boat i would enjoy in a few years time, her indoors would prefer it now:rolleyes:
 
Must keep a watch on this one, i love the builds and restorations:D From the description it sounds hard to believe you can live comfortably on her for any length of time considering its 20'. Look forward to seeing more of the internal work being a trade myself:eek:

Without doing a search, is this a river boat no matter what engine? sounds like a boat i would enjoy in a few years time, her indoors would prefer it now:rolleyes:
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20', how shall I say, is cosy. Having a dog as well (lurcher) will get us away from the boat come the evenings for long walks. On the Thames and Broads, we're intending to do one night bankside, next night marina etc., so at least we'll have shoreside facilities. During the time we had our Mayland, we perfected the art of living minimalistic and we're both at the age now where material things don't really count. As I said, we're fine with the basics and don't envisage any of our children or friends wanting to sleep over, god forbid :eek:. A quick guide to the layout can be seen at http://www.vikingowners.org.uk/theboats/Viking20/viking20.asp?g=1

The Viking 20 IIRC, will take up to 35hp and aimed mainly at inland waterways, tidal and non tidal (Severn, Trent, Ouse etc..). Viking do a 22' boat, horeshoe seating up front with a duck and dive double berth at the back. There's one of these on Loch Lomond with a 90hp which goes nicely, albeit a bit slow to get up and on the plane.

The Viking 24 and 26 offer more accommodation but with a price hike. We could have bought either of these two boats on the used market but having worked in the marina industry some years back, I resent having to pay for marina moorings. Hence we decided to trail which has its pros and cons. There may come a time when the 20 stays in the water but I'd rather have the money in my pocket right now than give it to a marina. Plus we get to see different waterways around the country :).
 
Great post, nice boat and so pleasing to hear of a good British Company that are willing to accomodate your changes and ideas, look forward to some more pictures.
 
"It always seems to me that the amount of fun had aboard a boat is in inverse proportion to her LOA."




Agree 100%....... all it needs now in addition to the underwater street lighting is a nice set of stabilisers :)
 
Must keep a watch on this one, i love the builds and restorations:D From the description it sounds hard to believe you can live comfortably on her for any length of time considering its 20'. Look forward to seeing more of the internal work being a trade myself:eek:

Without doing a search, is this a river boat no matter what engine? sounds like a boat i would enjoy in a few years time, her indoors would prefer it now:rolleyes:

I had a viking 20 on the K and A/Thames a few years ago; it is a little small but perfectly ok for a couple of adults for a few days. It is very much an inland boat but quite sturdy.

I had some great times on that little boat, it isn't big enough for icemakers, aircon, plasma tv etc. but as Oldgit says, the amount of fun is often inversely proportional to the size of the boat - and it was not too much of a shock buying the licence and great mooring between the bigger eedjits who thought they'd left themselves a nice big gap :D
 
"It always seems to me that the amount of fun had aboard a boat is in inverse proportion to her LOA."

Agree 100%....... all it needs now in addition to the underwater street lighting is a nice set of stabilisers :)

There's a new Viking 215 on the Thames, delivered a month or so ago, with a bow thruster fitted. Shame a stern thruster wasn't fitted as well because we all know it's essential to have both fitted on a 20 footer on the river :rolleyes:.

Guess I'll just have to call Viking lol.
 
There's a new Viking 215 on the Thames, delivered a month or so ago, with a bow thruster fitted. Shame a stern thruster wasn't fitted as well because we all know it's essential to have both fitted on a 20 footer on the river :rolleyes:.

Guess I'll just have to call Viking lol.

Thats ridiculous! You will be amazed how manouverable your V20 will be. The turning moment of the outboard and the lightness of the boat give you great control.

The only slight difficulty is going in a straight line without zig zagging! It takes some getting used to, you need very small movement of the helm and have to resist the temptation to over correct.

I started out with Vikings and they provide great economical fun.

Enjoy!
 
Thats ridiculous! You will be amazed how manouverable your V20 will be. The turning moment of the outboard and the lightness of the boat give you great control.

The only slight difficulty is going in a straight line without zig zagging! It takes some getting used to, you need very small movement of the helm and have to resist the temptation to over correct.

I started out with Vikings and they provide great economical fun.

Enjoy!

No thrusters for me, never seen the need, even on my old Farline 40. I was just relating to the owner of the 215 who felt the need for a bow thruster and me being sarcastic ;).

With regards to the OB steering, I quickly learnt last year that they don't manouver like a single or twin shaft drive. mangaed to pick up a used size 2 Ruddersafe was very little £'s and it transformed the old Mayland with an Evinrude OB. Wouldn't be without the Ruddersafe now and it's the first thing to do when the boat comes home in a few weeks time.
 
Lovely little boat. It's nice to see the market for new river boats isn't completely dead. I fancied a Viking 20 myself, but as I have a family it was too small so I got a 35 year old JGM Madeira (27ft with aft cabin) instead.
 
Excellent thread.

As a matter of interest, and at great risk of being shot down for my ignorance, what is the difference between a Viking and a Shetland? Did you consider a Shetland?

I'm just curious, as I saw a Shetland 24 at the NEC boat show a couple of years back and was really impressed at the accommodation and facilities and wondered how it differed from a Viking.
 
now you've got me reminiscing...

...attached is a piccie of our V20 on the River Ouse in 1995...those were the days!
 
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Excellent thread.

As a matter of interest, and at great risk of being shot down for my ignorance, what is the difference between a Viking and a Shetland? Did you consider a Shetland?

I'm just curious, as I saw a Shetland 24 at the NEC boat show a couple of years back and was really impressed at the accommodation and facilities and wondered how it differed from a Viking.

Very good question and yes, I'd looked at the Shetland 4+2 on paper many months ago. So why the V20?

Firstly, without getting on the Shetland website to check (down at the moment), IIRC the Shetland 4+2 comes in at 1200kg without an engine I believe, whereas the V20 comes in fully laden at 1100kg (ish). A trip to the weighbridge will confirm this in a few weeks time. So as we're on a trailer, weight was everything to utilise the car we've got.

Secondly, price new :eek:. Even on paper, Viking seemed to offer better value for money and this has been borne out in the final deal. By going direct to Viking and not through one of their so called "dealers", we've saved thousands on a fully specced, customised boat. Viking even advertise the fact that you can buy direct and have done since around September 2011.

Thirdly, just the initial enquiry to Viking to enquire about dry weight seemed to strike a chord with us. They asked the right questions and we new immediately we could trust them to build the boat we wanted. Strange how even first impressions on the phone can count for a lot. It was Wayne Goodwin, one of the two partners, who answered the phone and since that day we'd like to think we've formed a good relationship and understanding. And not fogetting Vinny Clayden, the other partner, who has also been extremely helpful and patient.

Fourthly, pedigree. Many of the current workforce worked on the original Seamasters before they went out of business and Viking Mouldings bought the moulds. Better explained in brief here http://www.vikingowners.org.uk/history/history.asp?g=1 or in much more detail http://www.vikingcruisers.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9&Itemid=90.

As to the general question of Viking v Shetland - Shetland have, I think five boats in their range (the Family 4 that you can't stand up in, the 4+2 at 22 feet and then a big jump up to the 27 and 29). Viking have boats in their range from 20' through to 32'. Their wide beam boats go from 20' through to 28' (20, 22, 24 and 26 plus the Seamaster 28) and offer a similar range of narrow beams up to 32' for canals and tight rivers.

I can't comment on the level of customisation that Shetland could offer as I didn't get that far. By now, our hearts had been stolen by Viking :D. I've seen Shetland's quality and care before in a marina where they fitted the Eberspacher exhaust under a fender (yes, the fender caught fire) and another where someone stepped on Shetland 27 integral teak slatted bathing platform and went straight through into the water.

At this stage in our relationship with Viking, we wouldn't hesitate to buy a bigger boat when the time is right. The six berth Viking 26 would do just fine thank you very much and at around £45-50k fully customised seems a bargain in today's market.

Hope this goes some way in answering why we chose Viking. (Now awaits a barrage from Shetland owners :o)
 
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