boat fridge - do you keep them on when cruising?

My Better Half wouldn't allow it to be deliberately switched off at any time. Basically it runs 24/7/365 even when we are not on the boat. Only time I know it is off when is when the boat is lifted and I don't have a Big boat but do have a gennie and inverter.
 
What has lifting the boat got to do with it? Mine are on 24/7/365 including when the boat is lifted. The fridges do not use seawater so they do not know whether the boat is in or out of the sea, and of course for a long period of hard standing you'd connect to shorepower
 
What has lifting the boat got to do with it? Mine are on 24/7/365 including when the boat is lifted. The fridges do not use seawater so they do not know whether the boat is in or out of the sea, and of course for a long period of hard standing you'd connect to shorepower

Don't know but when it was in Bleu Mer in Baie des Anges I suspect EBY didn't have shore power at some stage … cos she was in the middle? I never asked!
 
What has lifting the boat got to do with it? Mine are on 24/7/365 including when the boat is lifted. The fridges do not use seawater so they do not know whether the boat is in or out of the sea, and of course for a long period of hard standing you'd connect to shorepower

Some fridges do "use" seawater, though. Either a heatsink bolted to the outside of the hull, or an internal heat exchanger that pumps water in, through, and out again. A common retrofit variant uses a kind of bulky skin fitting you put in place of the existing galley sink waste, and it transfers its heat to the water sitting in the pipe. I believe water cooling is more efficient than offloading the heat to the air, and certainly it avoids heating up the cabin in hot places.

Also, perhaps when EME says "lifted", he refers to the boat being out of commission for a while, with the fridge not needed anyway.

Pete
 
Well, our Rafiki's fridge is on all the time that we are on board, and if we leave her for a few days. I generally unplug the shore power if we are not at the boat for a week, so all the electrics are off.
 
Just curious on your set-up, if the shore power fails, does the fridge run off the batteries or is it dual voltage fridge (240/12v), just thinking I would want maximum battery capacity for emergencies like bilge pump when away from the boat.

Dual voltage if I wish it to be, or I can isolate one or the other.
I'm not so risk averse that I fear a spontaneous leak on the same week that the shore power fails for long enough to flatten my 400 Ah batteries, so I leave the 12V on.
 
Some fridges do "use" seawater, though. Either a heatsink bolted to the outside of the hull, or an internal heat exchanger that pumps water in, through, and out again. A common retrofit variant uses a kind of bulky skin fitting you put in place of the existing galley sink waste, and it transfers its heat to the water sitting in the pipe. I believe water cooling is more efficient than offloading the heat to the air, and certainly it avoids heating up the cabin in hot places.

Also, perhaps when EME says "lifted", he refers to the boat being out of commission for a while, with the fridge not needed anyway.

Pete
Ah yes Pete, that is indeed true - I'd forgotten about those. Not on EME's boat though. You do indeed see plenty of seawater cooled fridges on some boats, though not the UK-built ones generally. Italian builds, among others, use them plenty. FWIW the current trend is away from seawater fridges, because people want high end domestic appliances these days, = SubZero et al, which of course tend to be aircooled
 
As with many other replies we turn both fridges on when we arrive and they get turned off when we leave - unless its a couple of days before we are back - in which case they are left on!

When in the marina shorepower is connected but we are rarely plugged in as prefer to spend time on the lake either at anchor or moored on the public jetties, which dont have power. I used to turn them up when we were underway but often forgot to turn them back down again which defeated the point :)

In terms of batteries, we have 3 115ah batteries that supply the 12v systems and start the starboard engine and a further 2 110ah batteries that start the port engine and power the eberspacher. We find this set up gives us enough juice to easily stay away from power for 3-4 nights with a bit of running each day. Windermere doesnt lend to long periods of running the engines like on rivers which is why we installed some extra battery power.

Both fridges use around 5ah each when running and are on approximately 30-40% of the time depending on the outside temperature. In July with the hot weather we had the battery bank didnt look too healthy after 2 nights at anchor without starting the engines. The fridges were barely off.

They are the biggest drain on 12v supply but who would want cold beer?! :D
 
Just curious on your set-up, if the shore power fails, does the fridge run off the batteries or is it dual voltage fridge (240/12v), just thinking I would want maximum battery capacity for emergencies like bilge pump when away from the boat.

If the shore power fails it will switch to the leisure batteries.

Our bilge pumps are wired to the starter battery not the leisure batteries that the fridge is wired to.

Our shore power has not failed to date.
 
As with many other replies we turn both fridges on when we arrive and they get turned off when we leave - unless its a couple of days before we are back - in which case they are left on!

When in the marina shorepower is connected but we are rarely plugged in as prefer to spend time on the lake either at anchor or moored on the public jetties, which dont have power. I used to turn them up when we were underway but often forgot to turn them back down again which defeated the point :)

In terms of batteries, we have 3 115ah batteries that supply the 12v systems and start the starboard engine and a further 2 110ah batteries that start the port engine and power the eberspacher. We find this set up gives us enough juice to easily stay away from power for 3-4 nights with a bit of running each day. Windermere doesnt lend to long periods of running the engines like on rivers which is why we installed some extra battery power.

Both fridges use around 5ah each when running and are on approximately 30-40% of the time depending on the outside temperature. In July with the hot weather we had the battery bank didnt look too healthy after 2 nights at anchor without starting the engines. The fridges were barely off.

They are the biggest drain on 12v supply but who would want cold beer?! :D

We have 2x105ah batteries and one fridge. We leave it on full all of the time even when away from shore power. We can moor for two days easily without shore power or the need to run the engine. We have pushed three days previously but that took the batteries below 12.2v which I dont like doing on a regular basis.

That said we do tend to cruise for long days so in between stops they are recharged sufficiently.
 
How do you mean?

You said your fridge uses 5 amp-hours.

5 amp-hours is an amount of energy, like an amount of diesel in a bucket. Saying "my engine uses a bucket of diesel" doesn't make any sense unless you also include how long that bucket lasted.

Surely its 5 amps per hour.

5 amps per hour describes a rate of change. It's a bit hard to think of an everyday example because it's not something we usually measure. But take maybe a chiller that's drawing 2 amps at 9am on a cool morning, but has to work harder and harder as the sun climbs and the day warms up, so that by midday it's drawing 8 amps. Its current draw increased by 6 amps over 3 hours, or an average of 2 amps per hour. Bit of a contrived example, but as I said, this is not a quantity we usually have to care about.

Pete
 
Do you guys keep the fridge on the boat switched on (to keep things cool of course!) whilst cruising? I've heard from a few people who strongly believe it must be turned off (despite engine is charging the batteries when cruising) and only switched on when having shore power?

Seems to me a few people are misleading you.
What's the point in having a 12volt DC fridge if you can only use it when connected to 240volt AC shore power ?
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Seems to me a few people are misleading you.
What's the point in having a 12volt DC fridge if you can only use it when connected to 240volt AC shore power ?
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It could depend on what kind of 12v fridge we are talking about.
A 12v compressor fridge is reasonably energy efficient and as examples above will demonstrate, will run for days with a couple of 110Ah batteries. Alternativly a 12v absorption fridge will empty even a substantial bank of boat batteries before tea!
I have an old 3-way, Gas, 12v or 240v fridge. There is no practical way to run the 12v from a battery. It can only be on 12v when the engine is running. The current draw is phenomenal. But to give it it's dues, it was never designed to work any other way. It is a caravan fridge really, so gas on the campsite or 240v if available. 12v when being towed by the car.

That could be where the modern 'myth' comes from.
 
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