Boat fire in Marseille

4th picture is a Leopard Sport 23. I wonder if its the one that's famous on this forum...
I don't recognise the boats in the other photos
 
Very sad, hope nobody was hurt.
Boat fires are rare, but here seems to have been a significant proportion of recent fires have been biggish motor yachts, in harbour. Wonder what the causes have been? Any lessons to learn?
 
Sticky Fingers said:
One possibility may be the surge in popularity of battery powered water toys eg SeaBobs, Flite boards etc. Lithium batteries left on charge in the tender garage / toy store.
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That was partly behind my question, have other reasons been found for the fires or could that be the case? Wonder what the insurers will do (as well as just upping premiums).
 
Sticky Fingers said:
One possibility may be the surge in popularity of battery powered water toys eg SeaBobs, Flite boards etc. Lithium batteries left on charge in the tender garage / toy store.
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Yup, the last time I arranged insurance (early summer 2025) insurers said many of the recent fires were caused by batteries in scooters etc going into meltdown. They imposed conditions on me about battery charging. My boat was built as standard with a cut off whereby the 230v supply to power sockets in the garage is disconnected unless door is fully open - maybe this is common nowadays. My insurers were ok with Cayago Seabobs, which seem to have a great reputation, but not any other battery gizmos, and they were most concerned about Chinese scooters.
 
jfm said:
Yep, I stand corrected PYB :) . It's a Leopard 27 not a 23 - I should have looked more carefully :)
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PYB's identification of the Mochi is even more remarkable, because they made two almost identical models (56 and 18), extremely hard to tell apart from what can be seen in the pic. But a 56 it is, and I can be positive about that just because it's one of the boats I carefully considered.
Makes me wonder if PYB got it right out of a 50% probability, or what! :D
 
MapisM said:
PYB's identification of the Mochi is even more remarkable, because they made two almost identical models (56 and 18), extremely hard to tell apart from what can be seen in the pic. But a 56 it is, and I can be positive about that just because it's one of the boats I carefully considered.
Makes me wonder if PYB got it right out of a 50% probability, or what! :D
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The 18 was a soft evolution of the 56 arriving in between 1994 to 96, with the main difference being the extended bathing platform. They had a couple other details which makes them recognizable, like the railing and the radar arch being a bit lower.
The Mochi 56/18 has incredible spaces even by today standards, and its lines are still sweet.
 
Agreed. That Mochi is a hidden gem, among sub-60' flybridges.
It's no coincidence that the Ferretti bros were inspired by Luciano Mochi (RIP) to shift from sailboats to mobos production, back in their very early days.
I wouldn't have hesitated to go for one even if a bit old, but neither of those I came across during my search (one 56 and one 18) were decently maintained.
 
jfm said:
Yup, the last time I arranged insurance (early summer 2025) insurers said many of the recent fires were caused by batteries in scooters etc going into meltdown. They imposed conditions on me about battery charging. My boat was built as standard with a cut off whereby the 230v supply to power sockets in the garage is disconnected unless door is fully open - maybe this is common nowadays. My insurers were ok with Cayago Seabobs, which seem to have a great reputation, but not any other battery gizmos, and they were most concerned about Chinese scooters.
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My experience was the same for a 2024/25 renewal ... I was asked to disclose details of any battery powered water toys, electric bicycles or similar items onboard and to update the insurer for any changes, including items hired on a temporary basis. There is a condition that batteries should only be recharged when the boat is crewed or in use and an exclusion for damage arising from charging items which have not been properly declared or items left on charge when no-one is onboard.
 
DAW said:
My experience was the same for a 2024/25 renewal ... I was asked to disclose details of any battery powered water toys, electric bicycles or similar items onboard and to update the insurer for any changes, including items hired on a temporary basis. There is a condition that batteries should only be recharged when the boat is crewed or in use and an exclusion for damage arising from charging items which have not been properly declared or items left on charge when no-one is onboard.
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What if a guest comes onboard with an iPhone….or you buy a new rechargeable torch ?
Although, I agree, only charge if you are present
 
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