boat choice
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underdog
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Boat choice
Some two and half years ago I bought a cheap 32 footer. An Artekno H-323.
I have now spent the same again in doing her up.
Work includes
Full osmosis treatment
New set of sails ( Main, 2 Genoas and Spinnaker)
New winches
New standing and running rigging
New prop and stern gear
New anchor and Bow roller.(Scandanavian Boats don't seem to feature these)
Rewired
New rope clutches
For what I have spent in Total I probably could have bought straight.
However I now have the boat that I know inside out and exactly suits my needs. I know that the gear will be reliable.
The other advantage is that I have been able to spread the cost to suit my budget.
I realise that if I were to sell her today I would probably not recoup my money. If i keep her for 10 years I should at least recoup the original buying price. The cost of the depreciation will bearable.
Some two and half years ago I bought a cheap 32 footer. An Artekno H-323.
I have now spent the same again in doing her up.
Work includes
Full osmosis treatment
New set of sails ( Main, 2 Genoas and Spinnaker)
New winches
New standing and running rigging
New prop and stern gear
New anchor and Bow roller.(Scandanavian Boats don't seem to feature these)
Rewired
New rope clutches
For what I have spent in Total I probably could have bought straight.
However I now have the boat that I know inside out and exactly suits my needs. I know that the gear will be reliable.
The other advantage is that I have been able to spread the cost to suit my budget.
I realise that if I were to sell her today I would probably not recoup my money. If i keep her for 10 years I should at least recoup the original buying price. The cost of the depreciation will bearable.
Rossynant
Well-Known Member
I will say same as Tranona - let's not talk about weekend racers for IOR rule, weakly built and not seaworthy. You can put a lot of work and equipment in, but no way to fix material fatigue in bottom (keel mount), hull/deck joint, chainplate area etc; simply not worth the effort.
There were many classic english boats, seaworthy and built to last, made before say 1972, before materials got expensive. Those can be found cheaply and sometimes with the gear already replaced, only need time to find, and good survey to be sure.
My personal choice tend to be on heavy side, but in case You do not need a racer - know of a boat safe and comfortable, below 16k probably, and no work needed; but it's a ketch
For more racing type look up Contest 29-33, models from before '73 year - very well built, possible to find nice one around 10k.
Much more seaworthy then IOR racers. At least not capsizing
There were many classic english boats, seaworthy and built to last, made before say 1972, before materials got expensive. Those can be found cheaply and sometimes with the gear already replaced, only need time to find, and good survey to be sure.
My personal choice tend to be on heavy side, but in case You do not need a racer - know of a boat safe and comfortable, below 16k probably, and no work needed; but it's a ketch
For more racing type look up Contest 29-33, models from before '73 year - very well built, possible to find nice one around 10k.
Much more seaworthy then IOR racers. At least not capsizing
Seajet
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Eh ?!
There were some great IOR designs, neither weak nor unseaworthy, the Shamrocks being one example.
The main criticisms which could be levelled at them would be rolling in following seas due to narrow sterns, and requiring relatively large crews; the 'capsizing B1 knockdowns' were mainly attributed to the OOD34, which probably just got unlucky.
There were some great IOR designs, neither weak nor unseaworthy, the Shamrocks being one example.
The main criticisms which could be levelled at them would be rolling in following seas due to narrow sterns, and requiring relatively large crews; the 'capsizing B1 knockdowns' were mainly attributed to the OOD34, which probably just got unlucky.
Rossynant
Well-Known Member
Oh, I'm not familiar with the ones mentioned earlier. Heard good opinions on some, yes.
Liked Carter 30 for one, and those built in Poland were made strong, more for cruising, in fact too heavy for racing. Comfy inside though. But have been laid down once, may I say B1 ? Not a boat to leave the helm (albeit rudder was on proper skeg). And two people sleeping in the bows made her wet.
Generally speaking - sharp, not buoyant enough bows, too much beam bulging in the middle, often flat bottom, narrow spade rudder - this is not for seaworthiness. Pain to control on steep seas and downwind. Racing version have been rolled and sunk, I knew her...
But my consideration is more on light scantlings, generally weight saving in construction, screwed on separate finkeel and spade rudder. All that is highly stressed and flexing, so after many years and some hard racing the hull can be weakened, joints loose, chainplates need attention etc. Costly problems. For simple economy, "good buy" - more solidly made older cruising boats could be better choice. Sometimes they can be found well looked after.
Liked Carter 30 for one, and those built in Poland were made strong, more for cruising, in fact too heavy for racing. Comfy inside though. But have been laid down once, may I say B1 ?
Not a boat to leave the helm (albeit rudder was on proper skeg). And two people sleeping in the bows made her wet. Generally speaking - sharp, not buoyant enough bows, too much beam bulging in the middle, often flat bottom, narrow spade rudder - this is not for seaworthiness. Pain to control on steep seas and downwind. Racing version have been rolled and sunk, I knew her...
But my consideration is more on light scantlings, generally weight saving in construction, screwed on separate finkeel and spade rudder. All that is highly stressed and flexing, so after many years and some hard racing the hull can be weakened, joints loose, chainplates need attention etc. Costly problems. For simple economy, "good buy" - more solidly made older cruising boats could be better choice. Sometimes they can be found well looked after.