Boat adrift in Cardiff

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Don't know if anyone has seen this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3229099.stm

It seems that an engineless houseboat has been evicted from a marina by being set adrift outside it, and have been blown onto wall wall or another (inclduding blocking the lock gates) for 2 days now. The couple who've lived on it for seven years are on board asking for help.

There's got to be a lot more to this than meets the eye, but is it just me that finds this extraordinary. Doesn't the harbour authority have anything to say about a boat set adrift, or any authority to take it in tow and impound it or something?

Weird.

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that boat looks vaguely familiar. A fairly regular feature of the forum in fact. Noah of the arc. Extraordinary and dangerous just to set him adrift if that is what really happened.


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The owners of this boat were on this forum a few weeks ago asking for help, but it looks as if common sense has been lacking in the way this has been handled. Isnt there a "reckless endangerment" case. I also think that the family have not helped their case by transforming their boat into a semi-mobile ark. They have obviously done an enormous amount of work on the boat and I should think it has transformed it as a home, but it is now more appropriate to the communities that live along the tidal part of rivers than a swanky marina.

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The report seems very careful NOT to state that CN cast the boat adrift - I suspect that there may be more to this than meets the eye ..

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A very familiar looking boat and a scenario apparently a good deal more complex than appears in the report - if previous posts on the forum are anything to go by.

Interesting to know how the 'Ark' managed to get adrift - and particularly 'conveniently' managed to block the lock gates effectively closing off the offending marina for a while?

A whole lot more here than meets the eye.

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Sorry guys, I must have actually been working the last time that NOAH posted a thread, and missed it all.

NOAH's life seems to be the same sort of pointless masochistic performance art that David Blaine has mastered. Pity he drags his kids along with him.

Ho hum and sorry for starting another thread about the saga.

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Don't you feel that is rather presumptious? Lacking in all the facts, I would rather go for the under-dog.

So, whatever has gone before, you get evicted from the marina... send the kids to granny and try to cause a nuisance so someone does something positive to help? Block the entrance to the lock? Sounds just like French fishermen.
I don't know, any more than you, the full ins and outs, but I do hope this couple and their 5 kids, all brought up on their houseboat, have a lucky break along the way.

And any more comfortable folk who feel, ho hum, that they are so comfortable they can shit from their comfortable position on people in distress can go stuff themselves as far as I am concerned.


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DeeGee

I understand where you're coming from, as I felt the same when I saw the story - but have you really looked through some of the previous posts from, or involving Noah?

He gives many facts, in great detail and you would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at the life he's made for himself. Can't laugh much about what that's done to his kids though. Let's hope they're just enjoying the adventure.


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Yep! Followed it all on here and otherforums. I don't want to get into issues like whether he is very good at presenting his case, or if he has missed some chances - mostly cos I don't know all the facts. I probably know more than most here, having been to Penarth, seen his boathome and spoken to people around, including last weekend. The issues are more probalby, from what I gather, about getting a berth when a marina, like your home, is rough and raw, and living there whilst houses are built around you, and then the house owners start to complain that your weird looking home is devaluing their property.

The bottom line is this - suppose you are right, and Noah brought it all on himself, do you still feel proud to be judging him?

:-((

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Re: try sticking to the facts?

.. look again at the reason they shifted him out and don't think that a boat permanently tied up and immobile is not a risk ....

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Possible question for tonight denbigh.....

..."there is a family floating around the gates of Penarth marina. Should we care? *

team is Bernard Jenkin MP, Prof. Lisa Jardine, Dr Vince Cable & Lord Falconer. Keeps us out of the house on "Trick or treat2 night!

Sorry you couldn't make it.

Steve Cronin

* "Any Questions" is from a local school tonight.

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Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation are, I am certain that CN did not set the boat adrift.

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You echo my sentiments. Those who have gone through hard times in life may know what it is like to have the responsibility for 5 young children and apparently no light yet at the end of the tunnel as far as his housing of them is concerned ie in a place where it is feasible to live: access to schools etc.

If one was in his position then whether or not one's posts were politically correct would be the least of one's concerns.

He has appealed for help.

Is there anything positive we can do to help?


John

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I think that a lot of people on this forum did positive things to help him. However, he ignored the sensible advice and pressed on with his futile campaign. He's brought it all on himself. I have no sympathy for the man, but I do for his children. He's probably putting them through a lot of anguish for no good reason.

Joe

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LIke you, I did my little best to no avail. Not because he ignored advice but because he is clearly up against big battalions and has little resources himself. His postings here and elsewhere were an effort to mobilise public opinion, the only effective action under the circumstances. I don't defend his actions, or suggest he was a great representative of himself, that is neither here nor there. It is the people like you that I care about, who have taken such a negative stance against Noah.

The only 'sensible' advice I ever saw on this or other forums, was to take the £10k offered by CN and make himself homeless. Or was there something I missed? Please enlighten me, so I can understand your unbelievable attitude.

:-))

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I'm so glad to hear that you care about me!

Have you considered the possibility that the man is simply wrong. Whether he is up against "big battallions" or not is irrelevant. He has simply been conducting a pointless, silly campaign. CN were more than patient with him and eventually decided to get him evicted, as they were fully entitled to do.

Noah had a boat that, according to him, wasn't seaworthy. He did nothing to get it into proper sea going state....then it looks as if he took it to sea! He wasn't insured, so he was happy to put everyone in the marina, including himself, at risk.

Did you see his postings under his other name?

I exchanged a number of PM's with him. So, yes, you have missed something.

My stance against him is not negative at all. I am absolutely positive that the man is a fool. If you wish to stand up for him then it is up to you.....though I am surprised to hear that you don't defend his actions but you seem to want to support his indefensible actions. Strange!

I'll leave it at that.

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Does anyone know what happens to the Ark now?

CN have evicted it from their marina because it is uninsured.Its now in Cardiff Bay where one of the requirements is insurance.

As the bay is run by the council does this mean that Cardiff council tax payers now have to pick up the fees for the next inevitable load of legal bullshit.The lawyers dont mind who pays them.

It seems wrong to me that CN can simply open the lock gates usher them out.(Inote that they cleverly did not offer any assistance in the warping out of the engineless Arc) and now pass the buck onto the Cardiff Harbour Authority.

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