Spuddy
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"Perishing know it alls ". Pot and kettle, I think.
Boarded by plod
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pmyatt
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Why not say something like "Of course you can - see you at our mooring this evening"?
DavenHelen
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They might have had more right if accompanied by a Customs Officer. (All those stowaways) /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
KenMcCulloch
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Well they probably wanted to practice boarding 'suspect' vessels?
I was once boarded by SBS types with loaded guns, that was in the North Channel in the early 90s. They had a look for guns and explosives but couldn't find them so left us to our drift towards Scotland.
I was once boarded by SBS types with loaded guns, that was in the North Channel in the early 90s. They had a look for guns and explosives but couldn't find them so left us to our drift towards Scotland.
Seven Spades
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How about this. Just had a knock on the door of my business. Can I see the owner or manager, it Tolworth Police. I go down, "Hello I am from Tolworth Police" hand is proffered to shake. "We are just conducting a diversity survey, can you tell me how many people are employed here and their ethnicity!
I could have made a comment about stabbings in London and perhaps time better spent...
Oh well, I guess I now know where my taxes are going.
I could have made a comment about stabbings in London and perhaps time better spent...
Oh well, I guess I now know where my taxes are going.
DavenHelen
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I wonder in fact, if a lot of the "plod knockers" on these forums, just resent the idea that there is somebody that has authority over them?
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Missed that bit....IFAIK, the police don't have any general authority over me, SWMBO maybe but not the police.
I wonder in fact, if a lot of the "plod knockers" on these forums, just resent the idea that there is somebody that has authority over them?
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Missed that bit....IFAIK, the police don't have any general authority over me, SWMBO maybe but not the police.
David_Jersey
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Anyway, one then asked if all three children were ours. Two of them were, the other was a friend of my 9 year old daughter... 'do you have a letter from her parents to confirm that it is okay for her to be with you out here?' they asked. Er no! Well you should really, especially on a boat... but she looks happy enough so I'm sure its fine.........
...................and WTF is all this about letters from parents???
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I would guess a lot gets lost in the telling, and I'm sure this was put very nicely......but it also makes me feel a bit uneasy. Somethings may be a good idea (or not), but as far as I am concerned, if it ain't the law then for the Police it is simply none of their bizness.
My "risk assessment" /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif for the 3rd child would be that if I felt a letter of permission was needed from the Parents, it would mean that (letter or not) I would not take the child.
Anyway, one then asked if all three children were ours. Two of them were, the other was a friend of my 9 year old daughter... 'do you have a letter from her parents to confirm that it is okay for her to be with you out here?' they asked. Er no! Well you should really, especially on a boat... but she looks happy enough so I'm sure its fine.........
...................and WTF is all this about letters from parents???
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I would guess a lot gets lost in the telling, and I'm sure this was put very nicely......but it also makes me feel a bit uneasy. Somethings may be a good idea (or not), but as far as I am concerned, if it ain't the law then for the Police it is simply none of their bizness.
My "risk assessment" /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif for the 3rd child would be that if I felt a letter of permission was needed from the Parents, it would mean that (letter or not) I would not take the child.
cliff
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Well I'll have the covers up and the heating on. Can you do that on a yacht? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Well I'll have the covers up and the heating on. Can you do that on a yacht? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
[/ QUOTE ]Most definitely YES! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Tranona
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Wow! Big brother here. What makes you think that they have "authority" over you? Where does the authority to board a yacht come from if there is no suspicion that a law has been broken? The fact that they asked tells the story. They can only board with your permission - they have no right. And they have no right to ask about a "letter of permission" as there is no legal requirement to have one.
The police are our "servants" and generally perform their role in an exemplary manner. Unwarranted interference in our own private activities is not necessary or acceptable.
The police are our "servants" and generally perform their role in an exemplary manner. Unwarranted interference in our own private activities is not necessary or acceptable.
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Chrusty1
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Wow! Big brother here. What makes you think that they have "authority" over you? Where does the authority to board a yacht come from if there is no suspicion that a law has been broken? The fact that they asked tells the story. They can only board with your permission - they have no right. And they have no right to ask about a "letter of permission" as there is no legal requirement to have one.
The police are our "servants" and generally perform their role in an exemplary manner. Unwarranted interference in our own private activities is not necessary or acceptable.
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No-one is a servant these days sonny....now go talk to the hand as they are fond of saying these days.
Wow! Big brother here. What makes you think that they have "authority" over you? Where does the authority to board a yacht come from if there is no suspicion that a law has been broken? The fact that they asked tells the story. They can only board with your permission - they have no right. And they have no right to ask about a "letter of permission" as there is no legal requirement to have one.
The police are our "servants" and generally perform their role in an exemplary manner. Unwarranted interference in our own private activities is not necessary or acceptable.
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No-one is a servant these days sonny....now go talk to the hand as they are fond of saying these days.
DAKA
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I'm with crusty on this one.
Plod is welcome on my boat anytime ( unless its a rocking ).
Indeed I have invited plod on my boat previously on numerous occasions, once after a Motor Cycle cop had just dealt with a young child on a tricycle being crushed under a 4X4.
Lets go a stage further and make it compulsory to give finger prints and a DNA sample before dole/sick pay / passport/ driving license and pension can be collected.
In fact the only thing you should be able to get off the state without a DNA sample is prison !
Plod is welcome on my boat anytime ( unless its a rocking ).
Indeed I have invited plod on my boat previously on numerous occasions, once after a Motor Cycle cop had just dealt with a young child on a tricycle being crushed under a 4X4.
Lets go a stage further and make it compulsory to give finger prints and a DNA sample before dole/sick pay / passport/ driving license and pension can be collected.
In fact the only thing you should be able to get off the state without a DNA sample is prison !
Marsupial
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Well there you go some luv em some hate em - we tend to invite them on board before they ask and offer them hospitality that way they will know me my crew and my boat and then they should have a better idea if someone is on board my boat that maybe shouldnt be there. As they are around the marina more than I am I take comfort from this. At sea I suggect they are just ticking boxes and practising get on and off boats.
The dark side is that unless you "embrace" their intrusion you could be regarded as "suspicious" by them - and that is simply human nature - amplified by a uniform and lots of experience in the seedier side of life.
The dark side is that unless you "embrace" their intrusion you could be regarded as "suspicious" by them - and that is simply human nature - amplified by a uniform and lots of experience in the seedier side of life.
savageseadog
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Some on here seem to think that this is acceptable on the basis that it's stopping drugs/crime/immigration/terrorism etc. The fact is that we've gone around minding our own business for as many years as I've been around without all this intrusion and these problems have been with us as well. Terrorism isn't new, the last phase of it was the IRA, drugs, crime and all the rest of it too. I'm afraid people are being brainwashed into thinking that this is in any way new or necessary. The government's induced hysteria is working.
MarkGrubb
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well someone must be otherwise we wouldn't have civil servants.
Tranona
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I used the word in the literal and formal sense, which is why I put it in inverted commas. It is not the same as the everyday meaning which you seem to take to be subservient. It is a very different status as they are servants of the Crown. Their authority over you and me as citizens derives from the law as others have pointed out.
None of this means we should not be polite and welcoming, but we can decline if we wish.
And, by the way do not call people "sonny" as you can only do that if you are their father.
None of this means we should not be polite and welcoming, but we can decline if we wish.
And, by the way do not call people "sonny" as you can only do that if you are their father.
cardinal_mark
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And, by the way do not call people "sonny" as you can only do that if you are their father.
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Only if you have a letter to prove it!
Mark
And, by the way do not call people "sonny" as you can only do that if you are their father.
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Only if you have a letter to prove it!
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bumblefish
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Last February my son broke his arm while we were skiing, second time!, so I was in a local clinic with him while 4 friends bought my 9 year old daughter back. They had to book a flight for her as we had not been traveling with them. When they got to the airport there was one couple with the same surname and another who had different surnames on their passports and my daughter with the 4th surname. No letter from me and no questions asked! Could this have been influenced by the fact that they were flying BA and 2 of them were BA captains?
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highandry
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Just a thought, about a letter from Mum....
A kid on board as a guest gets a whack from the boom...
A lad got kicked in the head on a bouncy castle..
Beware, times have changed, watch your backs, however well meant your invitations to 'come aboard' to other people's kids.
If I'd known she was going out in that boat, I would never have let her go.....
Get yer wallet out after the hearing..or perhaps get a letter from Mum?
Sad times to even have to think like that I agree, but..?
A kid on board as a guest gets a whack from the boom...
A lad got kicked in the head on a bouncy castle..
Beware, times have changed, watch your backs, however well meant your invitations to 'come aboard' to other people's kids.
If I'd known she was going out in that boat, I would never have let her go.....
Get yer wallet out after the hearing..or perhaps get a letter from Mum?
Sad times to even have to think like that I agree, but..?
peterb
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well someone must be otherwise we wouldn't have civil servants.
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You don't. The Crown has five services: the three armed services, the diplomatic service and the civil service. Civil servants are people who work in the civil service of the crown, and the term distinguishes them from those in the other four services.
well someone must be otherwise we wouldn't have civil servants.
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You don't. The Crown has five services: the three armed services, the diplomatic service and the civil service. Civil servants are people who work in the civil service of the crown, and the term distinguishes them from those in the other four services.
jaws
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If you ever go through London on your boat you have a 90% chance of being boarded by the boys in blue. They always wait, of course, until you are in the Pool of London so that they get maximum visibility to show the public that their tax is being put to good use and that they are doing something to combat terrorism. A lot of terrorists come from Teddington apparently! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
