wakeup
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Will this hull be commissioned in Penarth?
Blue or White Hull?
- Thread starter Gludy
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mjkinch1
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Hi Gludy
We have quite a few Blue hull boats in our Marina in Alcudia, Majorca, and whilst it was my first choice when we were looking, now I am glad I stuck with white. A lot of the blue hulled boats are faded on the corners, or the colour is not consistent across the hull particularly towards teh end of the season.
If you have a new boat perhaps this is not so much of a problem for a few years, there were very few 'nice condition' blue hulls in teh marina, and this is a mix of every kind of boat, including many Fairlines and Sunseekers.
But IMHO blue requires a lot more looking after with the sun you get in the med.
Martyn
We have quite a few Blue hull boats in our Marina in Alcudia, Majorca, and whilst it was my first choice when we were looking, now I am glad I stuck with white. A lot of the blue hulled boats are faded on the corners, or the colour is not consistent across the hull particularly towards teh end of the season.
If you have a new boat perhaps this is not so much of a problem for a few years, there were very few 'nice condition' blue hulls in teh marina, and this is a mix of every kind of boat, including many Fairlines and Sunseekers.
But IMHO blue requires a lot more looking after with the sun you get in the med.
Martyn
benjenbav
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Paul
One of the issues which came over strongly in connexion with your last boat was the absence of your ability to monitor during the build and prevent rather than try to cure construction problems.
A number of people expressed surprise/were wise after the event (me included, IIRC) as to the fact that you did not have a project manager supervising the process. Is this something you will change this time around?
One of the issues which came over strongly in connexion with your last boat was the absence of your ability to monitor during the build and prevent rather than try to cure construction problems.
A number of people expressed surprise/were wise after the event (me included, IIRC) as to the fact that you did not have a project manager supervising the process. Is this something you will change this time around?
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White. Looks better and stays cooler. I had a blue targa - the hull became very hot even in atlantic france.
rob
rob
DAKA
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I think the white one looks much better and looks to me to be the more expensive one.
All scratches are white so if you damage a blue hull you will feel compelled to repair immediately where a white repair will wait until lift out.
Further the white one will look newer for longer.
Blue will go out of fashion as did Red, cream, brown, orange(remember those sealines 195/215s) and all those Grey Brooms.
All scratches are white so if you damage a blue hull you will feel compelled to repair immediately where a white repair will wait until lift out.
Further the white one will look newer for longer.
Blue will go out of fashion as did Red, cream, brown, orange(remember those sealines 195/215s) and all those Grey Brooms.
Nautical
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If you like the blue I would go for it, nothing worse than hankering after something to compromise on what you wanted and then have that niggling feeling 'if I only bought the blue one'.
If you can afford the extra maint which in reality is once a year a really good polish and wax you shouldn't have a problem and will last for years, the problem with a lot of blue hulls is peeps use em berth up and just leave it, never get polished or even rinsed off and hey ho few years down the line looks pants.
I would A glaze the hull from new, I know its expensive but by eck its good clobber and you will find the muck and salt just falls off with a qiuck rinse, has all sorts of techno stuff in it to protect the hull from UV and other nasties, I ve tried nearly everything and would say it about the best I tried to date.
One point to note is that with a blue hull the builder has to be pretty spot on as the blue shows imperfections quite easily, white you can get away with quite a bit but not blue so if you view one and it looks bob on you can be confident enough that the builder is up to spec. Lots of bottom end builders stay away from blue cus its difficult to get really perfect.
If you can afford the extra maint which in reality is once a year a really good polish and wax you shouldn't have a problem and will last for years, the problem with a lot of blue hulls is peeps use em berth up and just leave it, never get polished or even rinsed off and hey ho few years down the line looks pants.
I would A glaze the hull from new, I know its expensive but by eck its good clobber and you will find the muck and salt just falls off with a qiuck rinse, has all sorts of techno stuff in it to protect the hull from UV and other nasties, I ve tried nearly everything and would say it about the best I tried to date.
One point to note is that with a blue hull the builder has to be pretty spot on as the blue shows imperfections quite easily, white you can get away with quite a bit but not blue so if you view one and it looks bob on you can be confident enough that the builder is up to spec. Lots of bottom end builders stay away from blue cus its difficult to get really perfect.
Nick_Pam
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Hi Paul
Like Martin, I've seen a lot of blue hulls that look plain shabby because the sun has bloomed the hull in places and not in others....but they do look ace!
If you are likely to leave her moored up for a while in the same orientation, then plan for increased hull maintenance or have white! If you are always on the move, I suspect you won't see quite the same issues.
When we were buying "Freya" I did a test - in La Rochelle, a white hull on a sunny day registered 24C and a blue hull 43C - clearly an indication of the possibility (in my mind) of some sort of chemical activity on inside the hull fabric, let alone the heating of the living space.
As an aside, I also did the same test on a white deck as opposed to a teak one - dech registered 27C and teak registered 37C so we have a white hull, white deck (teak cockpit under bimini) and sunglasses!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Wish I had that sort of money!!! Enjoy!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nick
Like Martin, I've seen a lot of blue hulls that look plain shabby because the sun has bloomed the hull in places and not in others....but they do look ace!
If you are likely to leave her moored up for a while in the same orientation, then plan for increased hull maintenance or have white! If you are always on the move, I suspect you won't see quite the same issues.
When we were buying "Freya" I did a test - in La Rochelle, a white hull on a sunny day registered 24C and a blue hull 43C - clearly an indication of the possibility (in my mind) of some sort of chemical activity on inside the hull fabric, let alone the heating of the living space.
As an aside, I also did the same test on a white deck as opposed to a teak one - dech registered 27C and teak registered 37C so we have a white hull, white deck (teak cockpit under bimini) and sunglasses!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Wish I had that sort of money!!! Enjoy!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nick
Whitelighter
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I have always been a fan of blue (or black) hulls, but on the MArlow O reckon the White hull is a better choice. The boat looks more complete, and a lot better IMHO.
Plus the med benefits already highlighted
Plus the med benefits already highlighted
KevB
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Personally I think the white looks 'classier' and more ship like. The blue looks nice but I think you'll be forever cleaning the fender and rope marks off it.
acbruce
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I am sure that white is more practical in so many ways...
but it just looks so much better in blue! My new Swift Trawler 42 arrives tomorrow and of course it has blue hull. I can't wait; I just need the weather to improve a bit!
The Marlow does look a great boat. I assume that this means that a Trader, one careful owner, FULL service history (and then some) will hit the market soon!
but it just looks so much better in blue! My new Swift Trawler 42 arrives tomorrow and of course it has blue hull. I can't wait; I just need the weather to improve a bit!
The Marlow does look a great boat. I assume that this means that a Trader, one careful owner, FULL service history (and then some) will hit the market soon!
Whitelighter
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The Swift Trawler 42 is a great boat - I have often coverted them in the past.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Just wander into any Med marina and see for yourself what the sun does to blue gelcoat. Any surfaces which face the sun get bleached. I've seen 2yr old Sunseekers in Majorca with rear 'haunches' that look like a 10yr old boat. You can polish them regularly but they'll still fade. The other prob with a blue hull is that if you scratch it, the white grp will show through underneath which is unsightly. I don't know whether a blue hulled boat heats up appreciably more than a white coloured one but it's got to make some difference
IMHO, the blue hull is of course nicer but the sensible choice would be white. Maybe you can get the yard to incorporate some blue stripes to break up the all white hull? Also agree with tcm. Teak decking gets very hot in direct sunlight in the Med so teak is OK in the cockpit if it's shaded but not on the side decks or flybridge unless those areas are also shaded
IMHO, the blue hull is of course nicer but the sensible choice would be white. Maybe you can get the yard to incorporate some blue stripes to break up the all white hull? Also agree with tcm. Teak decking gets very hot in direct sunlight in the Med so teak is OK in the cockpit if it's shaded but not on the side decks or flybridge unless those areas are also shaded
Argonautical
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Hi chap!
I have a Fairline Targa with the 'Must Have' blue hull! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
In my opinion, its the best looking hull colour, the sheer number of Sunseekers and Fairlines with the blue hull proves my point. They are the most desirable second hand colour too, ask any broker!
I think the Targa, Sunseeker style of boat needs a blue hull, but the Squadron, Phantom, flybridge type boats possibly look better all in white. Its a personal issue, but the fading of blue can be avoided with polishing, that said I have to do a proper repair job on our boat this winter because it hasnt been too well looked after in the rear quarter. Still wouldnt swap the blue hull however! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Just my opinion! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I have a Fairline Targa with the 'Must Have' blue hull! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
In my opinion, its the best looking hull colour, the sheer number of Sunseekers and Fairlines with the blue hull proves my point. They are the most desirable second hand colour too, ask any broker!
I think the Targa, Sunseeker style of boat needs a blue hull, but the Squadron, Phantom, flybridge type boats possibly look better all in white. Its a personal issue, but the fading of blue can be avoided with polishing, that said I have to do a proper repair job on our boat this winter because it hasnt been too well looked after in the rear quarter. Still wouldnt swap the blue hull however! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Just my opinion! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Whitelighter
Active member
Hi Jas,
Yes, on that sort of boat I agree. Our 34 looks lmuch better with the blue hull:
Than with a white hull:
Ok, so the second shot was the prototype, but the colours are the same. I have always liked the blue hulls, but on the Trawler type boats like the Marlow I reckon it looked muck more elegant in white.
Sorry I didn't make it down on Sunday, will be around this weekend as heading out with Derek and Roger. Will stop by if you're around.
Yes, on that sort of boat I agree. Our 34 looks lmuch better with the blue hull:
Than with a white hull:
Ok, so the second shot was the prototype, but the colours are the same. I have always liked the blue hulls, but on the Trawler type boats like the Marlow I reckon it looked muck more elegant in white.
Sorry I didn't make it down on Sunday, will be around this weekend as heading out with Derek and Roger. Will stop by if you're around.
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1yppah
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Interesting debate, now what colour would you paint a 1000ft cruise ship? There seems to be a mix of blue black and white here...
Whitelighter
Active member
probably white
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Deleted User YDKXO
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ACB, interested to hear how you get on with the ST42 because I saw the model of the ST52 at LIBS and it looks like a very nice boat
Whitelighter
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ACB, interested to hear how you get on with the ST42 because I saw the model of the ST52 at LIBS and it looks like a very nice boat
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Now that is a proper looking boat Mike
ACB, interested to hear how you get on with the ST42 because I saw the model of the ST52 at LIBS and it looks like a very nice boat
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Now that is a proper looking boat Mike
MapisM
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Form follows function. Or not?
If you believe in this principle, there's nothing to talk about.
If form is your priority regardless of function, then of course you can go for whatever suit your tastes.
It's as simple as that.
I fully agree with Deleted User and others also re. teak decks, btw (particularly on grp boats).
If you believe in this principle, there's nothing to talk about.
If form is your priority regardless of function, then of course you can go for whatever suit your tastes.
It's as simple as that.
I fully agree with Deleted User and others also re. teak decks, btw (particularly on grp boats).
misterg
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Had this conversation Today with "My" GRP Man....Dafydd (My Man) ....[ QUOTE ]
Would he be the only GRP man in your village? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
(Sorry, adding nothing to the debate - I'll get me coat....)
Andy
Had this conversation Today with "My" GRP Man....Dafydd (My Man) ....[ QUOTE ]
Would he be the only GRP man in your village? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
(Sorry, adding nothing to the debate - I'll get me coat....)
Andy